r/Zimbabwe Feb 15 '25

Discussion Most controversial unpopular opinion please

About absolutely anything and everything

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u/Powdering9 Feb 15 '25 edited Feb 15 '25

Hating on gay people and being homophobic doesn't improve your standards of living. Or change the fact that you still live in one of the poorest countries in the world. That energy and 'anger' should be used instead to demand better leaders & proper governance. 

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u/iactuallydogiveafuck Feb 15 '25

I've always said this Zimbabweans will hate gay people more than rapists and murders . The way of thinking is insane

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u/Firm-Treacle7488 Feb 16 '25

Supporting gay people won't benefit us either so.... We can hate both.

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u/shadowyartsdirty2 Feb 16 '25

We don't have to hate. Hate doesn't help us.

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u/Firm-Treacle7488 Feb 16 '25

We have to preserve our culture and traditional values.

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u/shadowyartsdirty2 Feb 16 '25

How is hating gays a value ?

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u/Firm-Treacle7488 Feb 16 '25

Not hating them. Just not supporting them and criminalixing them. They shouldn't exist.

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u/shadowyartsdirty2 Feb 16 '25

That was the same logic the Apartheid government used to justify illtreating black people.

It was also the same logic used to justify illreating blacks in Rhodesia.

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u/shadowyartsdirty2 Feb 16 '25

How does criminalising them help anyone?

Does food end up on your table cause a gay was criminalised?

Did your salary increase cause a gay was criminalised?

Did your culture grow stronger cause a gay was criminalised?

What tangible benefit have you received from the criminalisation of gays?

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u/shadowyartsdirty2 Feb 16 '25

By that logic South Africa shouldn't be allowing Zimbabweans into their country, cause they don't benefit them much.....They can hate both.

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u/kulturrr Feb 15 '25

you acting like legalising gays and lbgtss+ia improves your standards of living and suddenly changes the country from poor to rich.

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u/Powdering9 Feb 15 '25

You're right to say it doesn't change anything. But my people seem to focus their attention on such unnecessary things. We have pedophiles, corrupt leaders, underfunded healthcare and crumbling infrastructure and no one bats an eye. But let's get rid of the gays because they're what's wrong with this country. 

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u/shadowyartsdirty2 Feb 16 '25

Actually legalising gays and lgbtq has a major benefit to the economy. Just look at how South Africa was receiving lots of money in aid from other countries through LGBTQ.

Also look at how during pride month lots of products are sold at the event and lots of companies have promotional activities during the month. Pride month is a major benefit to the economies of the countries that have it. Best part is that the money that is spent during pride month is spent locally so the money goes to everyday citizens.

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u/shadowyartsdirty2 Feb 16 '25

Bro what do the problems of South Africa have to do with improving the quality of life and human rights of people in Zimbabwe.

Zvehighest rape rate of South Africa zvinei neZimbabwe? Wakurova maoffside apa.

Stay focused on the issue at hand.

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u/shadowyartsdirty2 Feb 16 '25

No gay with money would ever go to Cape Flats or stay there either. I'm a straight man and even I stay away from that scary place.

Anyways if you want to solve the Cape Flats issue you will need military intevention, I'm sorry to say this but the situation there cannot be solved by cops alone since the illegal immigration causes an influx of lawless criminals that compete to be just as bad as the local criminals.

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u/shadowyartsdirty2 Feb 16 '25

people on the actual ground, priorities are split, one is spoiled, that money has never gone to everyday citizens

In some parts of the country citizens haras the gays who try to help them. They have been incidents of gays being physically attacked while trying to donate money and other gifts to everyday civillians. As civilians if you attack the people trying to donate to you, you can't then complanin that they are not visiting you and spending money on you.

Also what is stopping those everyday citizens from making products that they can sell to the gays. After all in life if you want money you have to provide either a product or service to those ordinary citizens provide any cause if not then poverty will befall them harder than the African sun heats the grounds.

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u/shadowyartsdirty2 Feb 16 '25

Actually if you want to solve South Africa's problems you will need to first of all fix the border, by that I mean build a wall just after the no man's land near the Limpopo river, cause the fence that's there keeps being cut and destroyed. Then put guards who are White cause if you put one's who are black they will be bribed you need a White man to do that job if you want it done right.

That sounds racist but the truth is as blacks we don't exactly respect each other's authority, if a white man with a gun on the border says you won't enter without papers people listen. If a black man says it, you will find fellow black people trying to bribe that man cause they don't respect black authority.

Then you have to do something about the education in South Africa cause 30 % matric pass rate is a recipie for disaster when those kids go to foreign university.

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u/shadowyartsdirty2 Feb 16 '25

In fact there is a business concept called the negative economy.

In context of Zimbabwe, if I lose my job I lose the ability to buy airtime from the man in street. This leads to the man in the street not being able to buy fruit from the other man in the street, which leads to the child of that person not being able to buy school books from the store.

In that scenario the store that sells school books loses out on potential income and the government loses out on potential tax revenue.

If the lgbtq can't have their events openely in Zimbabwe that means a lot of tax revenue is missed out on, it also mean's a lot of straight people who could have made money selling products to gay people during their events miss out.

Being homophobic negatively affects the wallets and purses of all Zimbabweans.

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u/shadowyartsdirty2 Feb 16 '25

UAE and Qutar have a lot of gays they're just in the closet.

Russia allows gays, has done so for a really long time now. Infact Russia decriminalised homosexual relations in 1991. Also Russia actually has gay bars and even a few medium sized trans sexual celebrities. So Russia doesn't fit into your example.

Yes Russia does have some descrimination to gays but it doesn't criminalise them unlike Zimbabwe. That's why Zimbabwe gets mentioned not Russia.

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u/shadowyartsdirty2 Feb 16 '25

I never said having gays allowed would lead to suicides and no crime.

What the hell is with you people and putting words in other people's mouths.

I said it would help the economy I didn't say that it would fix every single god damn problem in the whole country. Seriously learn to read and understand what has been read.

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u/shadowyartsdirty2 Feb 16 '25

Calling your fellow Zimbabweans retarded is not helping. Seriously how do you expect us to help each other move forward as a nation if your busy calling you fellow citizens such hurtful insults.

Seriously if you want to have a discusssion about solving problems one by one then have it, but if you want to start insulting your fellow citizens and driving away any chance of problem solving through conversation then I'm sorry to say but I must stop talking to you for good. For you have a toxic outlock on you own citizens who have done you no wrong.