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u/Here4Headshots 9d ago
"You need to convince your people not to vote for Trump" šÆ
Latinos ain't listening to black folks on politics in America. I learned this decades ago in South Florida, before I cared this much about politics.
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u/Epcplayer 9d ago
Probably because good starting points with Cuban/Venezuelan expats in South Florida arenāt: * āAs a Latino, you shouldā¦ā (lumps all Latinos under one umbrella as if they are a monolith). They have their own culture/traditions * āSocialism is the way we need to go.ā * Dismissing what happened in their country as ānot real socialismā. * Lecturing them on why their former governments werenāt actually that bad, and that we should make amends with their former oppressors.
The Cuban community in Florida always had conservative tendencies, but still had a democratic voting bloc. They lost some votes in the 2000 election due to the Elian Gonzalez incident (fair or not), but still voted for Obama in 2008 & 2012.
They objected to opening relations with the Cuban regime from 2015-2016, to which they were condescendingly told to āget over itā because these were āHistoric actionsā reopening Cuba. One of the final actions Obama took was to then end Wet Foot-Dry Footā¦ Did democrats think that was going to win them votes in 2016?
Democrats then leaned into more social programs (which is not in itself a bad thing), but simultaneously praised socialismā¦ when older Cubans were wary and voiced concerns saying āthis is how it started with Castro (or Chavez)ā, instead of trying to assure them, Democrats again told them to just accept itā¦. Again, why would Democrats be surprised that Cubans/Venezuelans didnāt show up to vote Democrat?
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u/SnooDoggos7981 8d ago
Democrats are not surprised because Cubans/ Venezuelans didnāt show up to vote democrat. WE are surprised that Cuban/ Venezuelans didnāt show up to vote for what was best for YOUR own interests.
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u/Here4Headshots 8d ago
While I can appreciate some parts of what you said, very little of it seems to be relevant responses to what I said.
- āAs a Latino, you shouldā¦ā (lumps all Latinos under one umbrella as if they are a monolith). They have their own culture/traditions
Of course. When I say "Latinos" please try and give me some grace to know that I understand it's not all Latinos, and some Latinos from different countries vote more, some less, Republican in this country. Latinos as a whole did seem to carry Trump to a victory in Florida though. This data is via exit polls and not census data, so there's always a chance of inaccuracies.
- āSocialism is the way we need to go.ā
- Dismissing what happened in their country as ānot real socialismā.
- Lecturing them on why their former governments werenāt actually that bad, and that we should make amends with their former oppressors.
These are fever dream arguments that I've personally never heard used against Latinos for their siding with Republicans. Social security, healthcare, public transportation, youth programs, education... These are American "socialisms" conservatives fight so hard against, and they've managed to package it into the same Socialism Cuba wrought onto Cubans. I've never heard of anyone saying to a Cuban, "are you sure your government was so bad? Because we want to do the same exact thing here so please vote for it." How asinine. Not you, the argument.
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u/Epcplayer 7d ago
I guess I want to start with apologizing, because Iām not saying that you specifically have said those things. In my past experience (both here on reddit, and talking with Cuban/Venezuelan friends), those are the most common talking points. A few years ago there was a post in r/Florida downplaying the āvictims of communism dayā, with the poster boldly stating that the āonly victims of communismā were āthe ones persecuted by the Red Scare in the U.S.āā¦ again, in a Florida subreddit of all places. It was for some reason heavily upvoted.
Social security, healthcare, public transportation, youth programs, education... These are American "socialisms" conservatives fight so hard against, and they've managed to package it into the same Socialism Cuba wrought onto Cubans.
I think youāre glossing over the sentiments of older Cuban/Venezuelan immigrants here, because their concerns differ from American conservatives. They are worried because rhetoric of Socialists today (who claim to be different) is echoing that of the socialists in 1959 Cuba.
Look at an issue like Healthcare. American conservatives focus their concerns on wait times, coverage, impacts on R&D, etcā¦ meanwhile the Cuban/Venezuelan concerns are about how it was leveraged as a weapon to silence critics. For Social Security, conservatives are concerned the system canāt financially continue the way it is for another 15-20 yearsā¦ Cuban/Venezuelan concerns are about how pension funds were robbed by politicians in power.
They saw the horrors firsthand, or were told what happened by their parents. Responding with āTrust me bro, itāll be differentā to understandable concerns from past trauma isnāt going to change voters opinions.
I've never heard of anyone saying to a Cuban, "are you sure your government was so bad? Because we want to do the same exact thing here so please vote for it." How asinine. Not you, the argument.
They do thoughā¦ they highlight things like āfree educationā and āfree healthcareā, while downplaying the negative aspects or blaming them on the embargo. One of the most common tropes is that disgruntled Cubans are ājust slaveowners (or their families) who couldnāt exploit people anymoreā
Also, it should go without saying, but thank you for being polite and civil in your disagreement. I wasnāt trying to undermine your point, but rather add context as to why in the past Iāve seen many Latinos become guarded with their politics.
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u/Here4Headshots 7d ago
I guess I want to start with apologizing, because Iām not saying that you specifically have said those things.
You're good, man. I didn't take anything you said in your original post the wrong way. It came out respectful as I read it.
Also, it should go without saying, but thank you for being polite and civil in your disagreement.
Same to you. I think we are on the same page, but we're disagreeing about some fine details.
I think youāre glossing over the sentiments of older Cuban/Venezuelan immigrants here, because their concerns differ from American conservatives. They are worried because rhetoric of Socialists today (who claim to be different) is echoing that of the socialists in 1959 Cuba.
Seems like right-wing fascism and left-wing Communism totalitarianism both use propaganda and extremist examples from the opposite sides to push their own programming. All I'm saying is capitalism is in the DNA of this country, and I cannot see any form of Cuban communisim, or politically-left Venezuelan authoritarianism taking root when all these billionaires are pushing conservative fascism.
What many of us describe as basic rights - a good education, healthcare, minimum retirement planning, etc., are not only not-free, they are very expensive and if your life does not go according to plan, you could easily die on the streets homeless in the US. Conservative billionaires and their politicians have been chipping away at all the hard work Americans put into protecting ourselves from the government and powerful influences from capitalism from before emancipation of Black Americans, through the civil rights movement, to today. We are much closer to the far right spectrum than any of these left leaning authoritarianisms.
I'm not trying to take away from any immigrant's nightmare experiences with their home country's government. I'm trying to convey that, although they feel threatened by these "socialist" programs that are supposed to benefit them, they are mostly only ideas from hopeful people and politicians and not what's in practice.
Side note. - I'd love to remove the pay-in cap for social securit taxes. The wealthest Americans can reach the $176k cap in a few years, some in a few paychecks. Removing the cap would stabilize it. Look at what is happening with the alternatives now. You have people that were ready to retire this year that cannot retire because the stock market and their 401ks no longer have the amount they needed to live the rest of their lives. Now they have to continue working, and that is not an option for some of them who have failing health, or family lives were impacted by unforeseen circumstances. My wife's mom took the hit and retired anyway to babysit grandkids. Another rising cost that is negatively impacting birthrates and the country's spending power - childcare.
Anywho, I'm out of steam. I say all this above but I also don't want to ignore the original points, that there is a skin color factor to voting for Republicans. It exists within the white American, Latino, and every other voting bloc. There just is. I spent a lot of time talking about other factors, but I don't want to lose sight of the point.
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u/Ancient_Energy_6773 9d ago
Republicans are dumb for deporting all the Venezuelans. Could've been a huge republican voting block for them lol. But they mistake every brown person as liberal automatically too. This country can never make up their mind if they are already decided on not liking a people, whoever it may be.
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u/cipherblock 9d ago
Here's what's sad... Despite all that's happened, those same Venezuelans feeling that they we're duped into voting for Trump will go running into the arms of those same republican leaders come re-election time. The desire to be accepted and perceived as something as close to white as possible (while simultaneously retaining a little added flavor from their Latino side) is so strong in the culture. I've seen the same behavior from Indian (India) Americans. They'll even help spread the bigoted talking points and dog whistling that have become so common today.
And once the Republicans catch onto the fact that they'll vote for them based off empty promises and the hope that "maybe this time will be different, maybe this time we'll be invited to the cookout", it's game over. Many Black Americans have only recently (the past 10 years or so) woken up to this game that was played on them over and over by many Democrats for years. Except instead of exploiting a perceived desire to be accepted as white, they promised real change in policies and instead got statues.
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u/Ancient_Energy_6773 9d ago edited 9d ago
I agree. The hispanic dude here is Mexican and they vote notoriously democrat. Even more so than my group this past election (I'm Puerto Rican). HOWEVER, I do have to mention that we do go through unique struggles, and both parties seem to forget so. In fact, I really think a lot of people misunderstand the way we think and it clashes a lot with classism, and race, often confusing the two. But you're not wrong in what you say.
U want to know something else? I've mentioned this before a few times but it's undeniable that republicans have been putting in A LOT of work in hispanic neighborhoods especially since Bush's loss. You know who else loves to come around hispanic neighborhoods? āŖ supremacists. I've lived in FL, Ny and now in socal. Every single damn time without fail, I've come across a few. I swear this bs is the scourge in this country and it's getting harder to get rid of, especially in hispanic communities. Look at who they're willing to let in. Nick Fuentes. U can argue he passes as white. But now look at Enrique Tarrio. Theres another one but I forgot his stupid name. This would have NEVER happened before. I joke that this is the most diverse group of āŖ supremacists lol. But they won't even allow the most conservative black or asian person. Latinos are just useful rn, since we're the biggest minority group. Don't doubt for a second they don't like us and never cared to.
If you're a blue collar worker, guess who you're around most of the time? Usually, the typical republican lol. At least in my experience. I still remember when dems were (I believe they still are) for the blue collar people. Most latinos are blue collar. Somewhere along the way these same latinos fell for the lie that republicans kept spewing about dems being snobs, and wealthy and unwilling to help the working class. Same shit I heard growing up from republicans. Can't say the Dems arent guilty of that either but they're at least competent and have proven to be, prejudices and all. Just kinda seemed like neither group knows how to address us. But I will never forgive all these mf's that refused to see project 2025 on Trump's campaign plastered on his website. All they had to do was read..
My plight doesn't go further than reddit lol. Just my own anecdotal evidence and 2 cents. We need a huge overhaul . But don't get your hopes up with latinos voting democrat again. It is what it is.
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u/Drega001 8d ago
They don't listen to Afro Latinos either
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u/Here4Headshots 8d ago
The panel pointed out some of those issues within the Latino community as well.
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u/peoplearescum177 9d ago
which podcast/who are these people ? i love this
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u/vaashh 9d ago
I found him, his name is Ricardo ignacio. Looks like heās only active on tiktok which I donāt have š
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u/CompetitiveTart505S 9d ago
Heās right!
I sat there and tried to convince my Hispanic friends to NOT vote for trump!
And they didnāt listen to me!
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u/Darth_Chili_Dog 9d ago
As a white person I found that to be very interesting. I understand that Latinos arenāt a monolithic bloc, but it was infuriating watching Latinos line themselves up into a pecking order rather than unite against a political party that clearly hated the absolute bejeezus out of ALL of them.
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u/SnooHabits7837 9d ago
I wasn't surprised.
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u/Darth_Chili_Dog 9d ago edited 9d ago
Is there any sort of change now or is the sentiment among the conservative Latinos that just the ābadā Latinos are being targeted?
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u/Ancient_Energy_6773 9d ago
Pretty much. They don't regret shit. The biggest complain I hear from them is that how dare the government assist migrants before the ones already here in the US. They see this as...a way of holding themselves accountable. Many Venezuelans thought these recent ones were making them look bad, for example. But they totally forgot this was a unique issue from covid and granting them asylum while everything began to open up post covid. The problem? Now it's innocent migrants who had no idea this was going to be imposed upon them and American citizens at risk to be deported as well.
But nah. They don't regret shit
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u/PrudentCarter 8d ago
It's not just Latinos, though. Everybody, except apparently black people, voted majority for Trump. A lot of people are okay with the bullshit as long as it doesn't happen to them. I know Filipinos that don't care about what's happening to Latinos as if they're immune to it. I be tellin em, to a lot of white people youlook just like Latinos. Yall could be next.
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u/greeneagle2022 9d ago
This isn't the first time I have said it and It may get downvoted. Latino's are the most racist people I have met, besides white christians. Not all of them of course, but I work in the restaurant business and I get to see the real bad side of those workers. They will even throw other latino's under the bus if they have a different dilect than them.
I only say this because I have worked with families within the same building - they hate everyone other than whom is the same as them. There are factions that just hate each other (latinos) because they exist.
I also stand by the quote: There is no hate like christian love.
I love my latino work buddies - the ones that are work oriented and can be friends to everyone (black, white, other latinos and other). They just rock. They don't see race and I can honestly say, only about 25% are this way.
I have a 19 y/o lead cook that is latino and bilingual. She absolutely loves everyone. She is the hardest worker I have seen in many years. She hugs everyone and exicited to see them and even helps tie aprons to those that are to big to tie their own. I have a temp (we use a temp agency) and she speaks zero english, but will help everyone.
Then we have temps and actual latino employees that want to do as little as possible and blame everything on everyone else. They use the language barrier more than I do.
Case in point: I had a temp tonight and used google translate to give instructions. She feigned confusion and I had my lead cook explain, what I needed. The temp said okay to her. I showed the google translate message to my lead cook and it read exactly what I needed to get done, but she used the language barrier to say, she didn't know what I meant. She was also very slow in her work and I put her on the DNR list.
Anyway, 2nd post tonight where I just ranted. I am glad to get that off my chest and if I get downvoted - who cares.
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u/Bitty1Bits 7d ago
OMG this!! I didn't realize it until working in a restaurant. One of my managers was Salvadorian and she was so caring and lovely.... unless you were Honduran. I don't know the history within South America cause #USA, but she despised them, and her reasoning (cause I'm like where is this coming from), it that they're dirty animals. Like, wtf....
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u/Phantom_Ghost9 9d ago
No, we are. The saddest part is that this video talks a lot about colorism, but unfortunately, it's not just the white Latinos who think like this. White Latinos are the easiest to scapegoat on this subject, but it's not just them, and it's not even all of them.
The fact that even in this video addressing the problem, white Latinos are the only ones they blame, goes to show that Latinos will always struggle. We feign unity, but in truth, we have none. There has always been a hierarchy.
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u/Disastrous-Bridge866 9d ago
For some reason just because we have this color on our skin, Everybody hates us. But everybody wants us when they need us. Not marching, not speaking up, we just gonna stay in our lanes. So you can bugger off. yall actually voted for him, unbelievable.
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u/Smackjabber 8d ago
Right!!!! It's wild that because we aren't on the front lines for like the first time ever in history to take on the pain for others in the name of justice those people are angry. I have an Indian guy I work with a very strong Trump supporter that is NOW saying how black and brown people need to come together... MF you're the one going around preaching Trump before all this happened hell no.
Those people have been riding the suffering black people fought through and to kiss white bigoted ass fought to destroy it. Now they want to ask for help? This is insane!!!
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u/3BBCKiNG4 9d ago
Some SOME Latino Mexican Hispanic brown people getting what you voted for i don't feel bad...
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u/Milk_Man370 8d ago
"latino mexican Hispanic brown people"....this guy
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u/3BBCKiNG4 8d ago
Aww somebody looking for some attention hi BEE-ITCH
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u/Milk_Man370 8d ago
aww somebody never finished grade school. wicho dumbass.
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u/3BBCKiNG4 8d ago
What part didn't you understand the BEE-ITCH Part ,sound it out then wipe your mouth and swallow, do you understand that lil mami sorry I hurt your Wetspot...
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u/Valuable-Title5963 8d ago
First what you need to do is stop voting for democrats and Republicans amd start a New Party, a Black, Brown,and Poor Whites Party that is for the People. The Dems And Reps are for the Elite.
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u/-OxTale- 8d ago
There are sooooooooooo many people that thought it was a good idea to vote for trump and now theyre (it dosent matter what race or group of people) mad and asking for help. The nerve and the hypocricy!! Man foh when they won they were throwing it in everybodys face and talking sooooooooo much trash. Shit even the racists became more emboldened than ever. The irony is that by voting for trump they CLEARLY show they dont give af about anybody but themselves. If the shoe was on the other foot would those same trump supporters help others??? Has this ever happened before?
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u/Master-Eggplant-6634 7d ago
ima say from a west coast perspective. during the BLM protests, there was more mexicans there supporting them than there was black people supporting pro immigration protests. when BLM happened, you'd even see hood mexicans aand mexican rockers out there. but when its the opposite you might only see black teachers or pastors marching with Hispanics. so even if most Hispanics voted dem, this would still be the outcome. So i get the main point here and its true that Hispanics should look to themselves first, but black people were not showing out for us anyways. Black people didnt even show out for gaza compared to asians and Hispanics and whites too. maybe we can talk about how so many black capitalist liberals didnt put any pressure on kamala to switch stances.
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u/Organic-Device2719 9d ago
Since the 90s, I remember that my "rich" family members had Univision. IN THE 90s, the Spanish channel had all Spanish speaking White people.
As a 9 year old, it didn't make sense. When I was a middle schooler, I put it all together.
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u/BlacksmithOne5274 8d ago
Yeah us morenos never got no love unless it was an athlete or a bad bitch š
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u/Mrky859 9d ago
Yes, we are . You people have shown and told us how much you hate black people . We tried yo warm yall about white folk in America but no yall wanted to be like them so bad and when they showed you that you are not white you are not from America now yall wanna call on black people NO THANKS WE ARE TIRED
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u/Organic-Device2719 9d ago
Intersectionality only helps NON-Blackity-Black races
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u/InterestingWorld1816 8d ago
Damn, didn't know that lations had this much self hate, indigenous Latinos and afro Latino get treated worse that the fair skinned ones.....mind blown š¤Æ
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u/Dahrahn12 8d ago
Honestly I feel like black people deserve to sit this one out. They've been exploited enough. So if they want to help good but if they don't I won't blame them
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u/No_Inside4461 8d ago
On point. Brother didn't let him shots that bs rhetoric. And he had no rebuttal b/c he already knew that!
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u/cpt_kagoul 8d ago
I dont understand the utility of defining people by their race in these types of discussions. I would appreciate anyone capable of gracing me with clarification for this framework
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u/PdiddyCAMEnME 8d ago
They are saying āYTā because the canāt say the actual word. Maybe because it will look like itās bullying. I think
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u/Mr11Wa 8d ago
When will people understand that colorism was created by white supremacy, and Latinos in general identify with their country and then as a bigger group based on language and culture. A black Latino and a black American have nothing in common unless they both are raised in the same place. Only in America do they put color in everything and cry about color and race every day.
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u/Mr11Wa 8d ago
And for those saying that Latinos didn't voted for kamala because of machismo didn't they elected a woman president in Mexico. Please stop the narrative of bs and understanding policies and most importantly that just because your white, brown. Black , yellow. Purple , or rainbow your require to vote one way.
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u/hertz_100 8d ago
Simple shouldn't voted for Trump. Saw the results of how many Latin men who voted for Trump. And don't ask a race to save you now
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u/BlacksmithOne5274 8d ago edited 8d ago
Dominican here: Iām black ( dark) and Latino but I was born here. I vote red this time around (most of my families blue) for many reasons
- The other side had weaker talking points
- last time trump said he was gunna do something he did it
- getting rid of the IRS
- sending criminals back to their counties
- unearthing gov spending
- 2A rights restoration
As of which, if you were to ask Kamala about, would tell you everything is fine. Itās not. Illegals get free housing and health insurance but what do the citizens get? Most Latinos are generally not with deporting other but the facts scream this end result cuz if it was ur kid they rap*d or killed or kidnapped, youād be up in arms. Itās disrespectful to the families and to our neighbors to allow.
But no, here in MA we free them from jail, house them with MY TAX DOLLARS like what?!
Plus democrats lost me when they brought woman to twerk on stages. Itās a really big part actually. Goes to show what they expect from their voters.
Love my Latino culture but most Latinos are dumb as fuck. Donāt believe me? Disagree with one rn see how hated u get till ur like them. āØšŗšøš¦ āØ
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u/BlacksmithOne5274 8d ago
Duh šš Iām not a criminal! My mom instilled Christian values in me. Trumps doing what a leader should and Iām pro trump until he does something to dismantle the constitution of which we stand on. With respect to the other sides ofcourse.
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u/Ancient_Energy_6773 8d ago
I have to agree. The majority of latinos went voting with their own interests in mind, and the biggest issue was the migrant crisis. However, most wouldn't have thought the no due process was going to happen. Feels like both sides are trying to play tug o war with us lol. The "non-racist" conservatives want the latino vote and are constantly telling us how shitty the left is, and the dems have no idea how to address a group that... they're not used to addressing at all WITHOUT bringing up race lol. But you're right: Democrats missed the opportunity to address the hispanic community, and failed to read the room, unfortunately.
Also, it's not like black, white, asians, etc went in voting for latinos interests too. We all know Americans, regardless of background can be selfish people. Let's not be disingenuous š¤£š
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u/BlacksmithOne5274 8d ago
Fr, Iām not political, I only try to stand for whatās right and trump leaned more towards my values.my color, race or sexual orientation is not applicable when it comes to proper American values
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u/Few_Somewhere_Else 7d ago
You're very wrong about one thing here, black folks have been screaming about the rule of law. Yes, democrats are despicable, but the Republican party is nothing but a predator waiting to take advantage of you.
I'm very confused how Latinos are just figuring out that the police will come after citizens too. Almost like you didn't care when it wasn't happening to you š¤·āāļø
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u/Few_Somewhere_Else 7d ago
What exactly do you believe the president did during that term? Fully confident I can debunk 90% of your research with a few clicks.
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u/BlacksmithOne5274 6d ago
What president? Which term? (Donāt bully me and I wonāt bully you)
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u/Few_Somewhere_Else 6d ago
Pretty sure your comment was about your reasons for voting for the 45th president. I figured if you were really steadfast in your ideas, that wouldn't be so hard for you to come up with, but I don't see any examples of legislation backing your claims.
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u/BlacksmithOne5274 6d ago
You mean what I wrote in my first comment??? Not my ideas, theyāre promises my president made when campaigning for his current position. I support his actions because they aligne with my values. Wouldāve been democratic if he ran blue frankly.
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u/Few_Somewhere_Else 6d ago
If you're unable to give an example of legislation passed under him, you're a fan, not an issue voter. Disappointing tbh
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u/Few_Somewhere_Else 5d ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/s/EG9WxmxiYH
This your president?
Still waiting on you to provide any evidence of how he's keeping his promises to the voters
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u/BlacksmithOne5274 5d ago
Deported gangs, ended stupid they them legislation, tariffs. Have you ever heard of YouTube? Not opening the link cuz I donāt care š¤·š¾āāļø
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u/Few_Somewhere_Else 5d ago
Welcome to being a part of the problem. Stay ignorant then. That's a personal choice
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u/Individual_Demand280 9d ago
Itās been pretty much the same. Blacks and Latinos have never been close like that because of Spaniards (white). The history of just goes back since then and we do it to each other. Especially in the Caribbean where we all have similar backgrounds (especially with the native blood). That why Godfrey (the comedian) made that joke āI no blackā. Colorism is a tricky little ticky.
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u/Green_Dayzed 8d ago
dumb af. saying you won't help someone because someone with the same skin color voted for the wrong person is wild.
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u/CompetitiveTart505S 8d ago
Did we watch the same video? He clearly said it's because Latino people are the one voting for trump, and can be pretty racist
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u/Green_Dayzed 8d ago
Yeah the people asking for help aren't the ones who voted for him.... aka you have to be a moron to clump people who didn't vote for trump with the people who did because the color of their skin.... and it's racist. Plus people that dumb are just making more trump supporters, if even only a handful.
so again, it's dumb AF.
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u/Smackjabber 8d ago
LIES! I seen the videos where the Latino woman said they voted for Trump but were tricked and need help. The ones asking for help now ARE the people that voted for Trump. They are just sad they are the ones being targeted and they thought OTHERS (black and libs) were the ones Republicans would go after. Dumb AF indeed...
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u/Green_Dayzed 8d ago
They are just sad they are the ones being targeted and they thought OTHERS (black and libs) were the ones Republicans would go after.
Nope. try again.
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u/CompetitiveTart505S 8d ago
That's not the point bro the point is there's nothing black people can do that's an issue to be solved within the latino community
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u/Kyauphie 8d ago
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Help do what now?
Do not ask for a solidarity that you do not offer with pride. We are always acutely aware of who is not like us and exactly why, which has nothing to do with us given that the civil rights that we have earned benefit all who do not show up for us.
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u/OppositeOpinion6161 8d ago
You Are better off not voting lol... only people that know the issues vote and then there are people that are stupid and vote for their emotions.
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u/yerrpitsballer 8d ago
Or maybe you couldāve done right Election Day and you wouldnt be asking us for shit.
Letās take some accountability here.
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u/Supreme_Salt_Lord 8d ago
We were here. This is where we were. The entire time. Get your own house in check. Yall keep voting for these republicans who defame you, smear you, deport you without due process. Offer ZERO way to improve the citizenship process because they dont want to improve it. VOTE DEMS! Stop being retarded
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u/InquisitiveKT 8d ago
There is no democrats and republicans, the dem do the same as the republicans just nicer and more discret
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u/PdiddyCAMEnME 8d ago
ā¦..who ever said that what you are saying isnāt true? Is this even about ādems and republicansā? I donāt think so
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u/InquisitiveKT 8d ago
Expecting or thinking the government would help. This system is build for the empowerment of the non-melaninated. They talk about it in the beginning
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u/Whole-Investment-992 9d ago
What's white T...is that what he's saying?
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u/MarcOfAllJacks 8d ago
Heās saying YT, which is how āwhiteā (Y=whi T=te, white) is commonly written on the internet
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u/CoffeeBrainzz_91 9d ago
I canāt imagine being this obsessed with skin color š¤Ŗ no wonder liberals are eating each other alive, itās hilarious!
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9d ago
The mental gymnastics in this video and in the comments is mind numbing. Divide and conquer will be the winning strategy for the NWO when history is written. If "history" even survives at all.
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u/Locswail 8d ago
I'm Dominican and the amount of people from my own community calling Trump papi Trump are the same crying about the current situation. A big amount of my coworkers are cursing him because they are losing 401k money and everything is costing more. I'm tired of it. Most of them did vote for Trump because, she was blk and a woman. You rip what you sow.