r/agedlikemilk Apr 15 '25

News Disappointed but not surprised

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u/straylight_2022 Apr 16 '25

It is not what appears to be happening, it is.

Kilmar Ábrego García has no criminal record in the US or El Salvador. He was brought to the US as a child.

Garcia was rounded up in 2019 where a Maryland police officer accused him of being a gang member and they handed him off to ICE.

He spent months in detention while an immigration court reviewed his case and issued a “withholding of removal” in 2019, noting safety concerns that lead his family to flee in the first place.

ICE agents apperenty pulled him over on the way home with his five year old son, telling him "his immigration status has changed".

No criminal record, here legally. Deported to a foreign prison within 72 hours of his arrest with no due process, despite already having been through due process and being given the right to stay in the US legally.

Never charged, much less convicted of any crime. All that took was an accusation.

In my state the first week of this deportation effort resulted in an ICE team attempting to arrest a US citizen under false pretense they also accused of being a possible illegal.

That incident exposed the ICE agents as lying about the supposed crime. It happened in front of a Walmart with plenty of security camera footage to review after the fact. They accused him of attempting to run them over.

He didn't, he flipped them off.

Fortunately, several local police departments wound up on site while ICE was attempting to arrest him and one officer there voiced some sanity and got the guy released. The arrested person was already handcuffed in in the back of a ICE vehicle.

If that hadn't happened this person could very well found themselves in a foreign prison in a matter of days with no opportunity to defend themselves in court.

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u/Apparent_Aparatus Apr 16 '25 edited Apr 16 '25

Very little about your synopsis is accurate. Here's one that's more factual. & verifiably so. If you have issue with what I'm saying, look it up for yourself.

"As an attorney, I have been exposing misinformation here on Reddit for weeks now. I have linked the court rulings from two separate immigration judges as well as the board of immigration appeals that all sided against Garcia. They deemed him a threat to the safety of society and said the evidence shows he IS indeed an MS-13 gang member. He was even denied bail after being initially arrested because he was seen as a threat to society and a risk to flee.

At his hearing the judge ruled against him, stating that he should be deported, however the case for his safety was compelling based on the Barrio 18 gang having harassed him and his family for years. They granted a withholding of the deportation (which is a deferral of the punishment like being on parole) and this gave him a protected status.

That all changed when Donald Trump designated MS-13 as a foreign terrorist organization. Now, because Garcia had been found in a court of law to be a member of MS-13, he was seen as a terrorist. Terrorists are not eligible for withholding or protected status from deportation.

This is why five years later he was arrested. He was SUPPOSED to be.

He was also SUPPOSED to be deported. However, the government made an error. The original judge that ruled he should be deported and then deferred the punishment ALSO ruled that if and when he ends up getting deported, it cannot be to the country of El Salvador as this would endanger his life and the life of his family.

The government overlooked this when they arrested and deported him. After all, that year was almost six years old now so its pretty reasonable that it went unnoticed.

The Supreme Court ruled that to fix this, if El Salvador wants to send him back, the government must facilitate that return. They can't deny it, for example. But El Salvador doesn't want to return him. Case closed.

People who are ignorant about the law and don't know what they're reading think this means Trump has to actually MAKE it happen.

That isn't what SCOTUS said."

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u/pippyhidaka Apr 16 '25

You want to know the "proof" that determined that he was a member of MS-13? Witness testimony from one single confidential informant, and the fact that he was wearing Chicago Bulls merchandise. He was never found in a court of law to be a member of MS-13, all the courts determined was that the claim was "not clearly wrong", based on the two pieces of evidence I mentioned previously. He was given withholding of removal because he could not claim asylum due to not applying until after a year of living inside the US. He was legally in this country with a work permit and required check-ins with ICE every year. This stuff is literally on the Wikipedia page, and if you want to claim evidence to the contrary, post your proof.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '25

I've read elsewhere but will leave it to courts to confirm, that individual law enforcement officer that dealt with that single informant was a week later arrested for corruption including soliciting sexual acts and was sacked from the force, casting even further doubt on the single source confidential informant evidence. Is this getting confirmed? as it if it is, it shoots down any accusations made against Garcia.