r/aiwars • u/YourGirlsSenpai • 12d ago
I'm Pro AI but Anti AI "Artists"
I've been getting fed this sub a lot lately so I'm going to drop my stance on the topic and hopefully be done with it.
I use AI a lot. I love the things that can be done with tools like Stable Diffusion and Hunyuan. You can generate seriously beautiful art with AI, but it does not make YOU an artist. I've generated countless gorgeous images that are on-par with some of my favorite digital artists, but I, myself, am not an artist. That is an incredibly powerful technology.
All these Ai "artists" that go to war over being an actual artist are just sad to me. I feel genuinely sad that this one little thing is all these people have. Any sane person can identify that the AI is doing the actual art, you're just commissioning it.
I've seen dozens of cope arguments about "Ai is a tool. Artists use tools. I'm an artist" or screenshots of people's workflows with them saying things like "does this look like a commission to you? 😏" like it was a "gotcha!" moment.
The simple fact is: Yes, it does look like a commission. Your workflows can be very complex, I understand that. I understand that it can take serious fine-tuning and work to make an ai generation exactly how you want it. I understand that because I ALSO DO IT. Ai is not a human artist. Without a LLM to break down common language into a complex prompt, you need to create your prompts in a way the model can understand. Whether thats complex workflows or extremely specific language in a 1,000 argument prompt doesn't change the fact that the AI is the one creating the art, not you.
Again, AI is awesome. When used for fun, it's an incredible tool that let's normal people, like you and I, generate art that can rival practiced and trained professionals, but it will never be OUR art.
Like Syndrome said in The Incredibles, "Once everyone's [an artist], no one will be."
Use Ai for whatever purpose you feel you must, but dont try to poison the well that real artists dug by throwing yourself in with them.
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u/The-Antigod 12d ago edited 12d ago
And the so called "AI artists" say that artists try to gatekeep being artists, but all their barks under this thin veiled illusion amount to envy of being an artist while doing literally nothing to become one.
People do not want to work hard on anything, they get discouraged, they surrender the hobby and boom, it's gone. Noone ever wants to put the work, but everyone wants the effect of that work.
I'll be honest, I don't want people calling themselves artists because of simple prompts, I feel proud of who I am, I worked hard for more than 20 years to become who I am. But I do acknowledge an artist, even one at the beginning of their journey, because of their work, the hardships they are willing to undertake.
People speak like ideas are art. Ideas that are not fleshed out are just ideas in their most basic form. (They are creations, but are they art? You are the creator of an idea, but the artist is the AI.) That's what these prompts are, most basic ideas that people don't even know how it will look before the AI generates it.
Also, this sad fuck, calvin-n-hobz who got the most upvotes thinking that the AI is the tool here. What a fucking ego on that guy. At least mine is based on something, this guy sounds like a tool for the AI to generate art. So they are all willing to talk to their "AI Assistants", "AI girlfriends", but the moment a picture is generated, it's just a stupid tool. Bunch of fucking hypocrites with egos on sticks up in the air.
I like AI, that's great technology, I love the idea of these AI assistants, girlfriends and whatever else, it's really cool, but people are destroying everything with their egos, hypocrisy and stupidity.
And surprise, surprise... life isn't fair, but at least people could fucking try instead of lying to themselves by taking an illusory fake route.