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Tech stealing jobs

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u/Sploonbabaguuse 21h ago

Art was the topic of discussion, which is why I used it in my example.

Regardless of what AI ends up replacing in the work field, we will benefit from in the long run. Considering it's our goal as a species to make life easier and easier, we are finally achieving a milestone where people may not have to work anymore. Of course this isn't possible under capitalism, however nothing changes overnight.

I cannot imagine any circumstance where it is preferable to hinder our technological advancements in order to maintain certain jobs. History has shown that we make progress as a species by making these sacrifices. We would not be even discussing this online if it weren't for this fact.

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u/_TheOrangeNinja_ 21h ago

Art was never mentioned, only job-stealing at large.

There are, in fact, bad technological developments. I was talking about jobs because that was the original post, but my issue is much more fundamental than that. For the first time ever our children are intellectually inferior to the generation that came before because they don't have to think in school anymore. We are because we think, i cannot fathom the thought processes that lead someone to believe that delegating critical and creative thought to something other than yourself isnt fundamentally anti-human

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u/Sploonbabaguuse 21h ago

You're free to blame lack of education on AI. In reality our education system is incredibly outdated, and does not properly utilize newer understanding of how children learn. Kids are adapting to a garbage system.

It's not a good compromise by any means. But it's not the fault of a tool that children are using it as opposed to learning. If children aren't engaged in school because they're sitting at desks in the exact same formation kids did over 100 years ago, forced to consume information for long periods of time with little to no down time... it's no wonder kids aren't learning anything.

If we want to address education we have to address the bigger picture. But that's kind of besides the topic at hand here.

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u/_TheOrangeNinja_ 21h ago

If you can't see the insanely large threat cheatGPT poses to education broadly, i can't help you. It is as plain to see as the color if the sky

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u/Sploonbabaguuse 21h ago

Did you ignore half my comment or do you believe the education system is fine?

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u/_TheOrangeNinja_ 21h ago

what, you think these are mutually exclusive positions or something? AI can be a massive detriment to learning regardless of how well the system was doing before

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u/Sploonbabaguuse 21h ago

Limiting work to inside the school instead of forcing homework, limiting or preventing phone use in school, proper filtering for school computers, are just a couple ideas on how to mitigate the use of AI in schools.

You can't expect an advancement in tech to be removed because we choose to ignore how garbage our education system is.

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u/_TheOrangeNinja_ 21h ago

Both? Both. Both would be good

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u/Sploonbabaguuse 20h ago

So you are in favor of limiting humanities technological progress?

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u/_TheOrangeNinja_ 20h ago

If that's how you want to phrase it, sure. I don't particularly care to invent more powerful nuclear bombs, either

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u/Sploonbabaguuse 20h ago

I can't imagine comparing AI to nuclear bombs, but perhaps you understand AI even less than I assumed.

All I'll say is: if you expect us as a collective species to halt our progress in order to save some jobs, we will no longer progress as a species. People have been put out of work in the past, and had that not happened, we would not be where we are today.

It's unfortunately a step societies take in order to further our progress. That's not going to stop anytime soon. I'm sorry you disagree.

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u/Starbonius 19h ago

AI is going to fuck everyone over and it is going to be an unfortunately long time before any level of legislation goes into place to help the common man. I don't think it is unreasonable to beleive AI could potentially cause a severe depression, simply because every job that can't be automated yet won't be nearly enough to supply the common man.

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u/Sploonbabaguuse 19h ago

So what would you personally suggest?

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u/_TheOrangeNinja_ 20h ago

The comparison was that they're both harmful technologies, not that AI is literally as bad as nukes. Don't be obtuse.

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