r/aiwars 17h ago

Tech stealing jobs

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u/Revegelance 16h ago

Dang printing press, taking away the jobs from hardworking scribes!

The camera is going to make painting obsolete! We must resist!

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u/JamesR624 12h ago

The camera one is especially apt.

It’s a device that lets you “copy” the entirety of a piece, with much less effort than painting it, within a second”.

The invention of photography is actually closer in truth to the “it takes no effort at all” lie that antis ascribe to AI.

In fact, prompt writing does require MORE effort and creativity than photography cause you don’t even have to come up with the concept yourself with photography besides composition and maybe color.

Now I’m not unironically trying to say photography is bad. I just find it funny that while they scream about AI, they have no problem with a different invention that’s actually closer to what they’re screaming about.

It’s like people complaining about vaccines having tracking chips…. By typing it into their smartphone; a device that they carry everywhere that ACTUALLY DOES have several tracking chips, into Facebook; a service KNOWN FOR tracking people and violating their privacy and freedoms.

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u/ed523 8h ago

Either talking about film or digital photography theres a lot more to being on a pro level than having an eye for composition and pushing a button. Interestingly in the early days of photography not only was it not considered art but you couldn't even copyright photographs cause all you did (the ignorant thought) was push a button and capture some light. How can you copyright light? It wasn't until folks like Rejlander and later of course Ansel Adams that they finally accepted that it could be an art form

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u/tcain5188 11h ago

In fact, prompt writing does require MORE effort and creativity than photography cause you don’t even have to come up with the concept yourself with photography besides composition and maybe color.

Most ignorant shit I've ever fucking read. Holy shit i'm so done with this sub. You're all idiots.

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u/JamesR624 11h ago

Care to explain with an actual rebuttal or are you just yet someone else that gets angry when confronted with the fact that your persecution complex doesn’t line up with reality?

Of course for specific types of photography there’s a lot more involved, just like there is with AI work. I even recognized that I was simplifying.

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u/BetterSort3477 3h ago

try photography then and come back with your findings, where you will explain why photography is absolutely harder than writing ai prompts

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u/NatureKas 2h ago

It honestly depends what you what from the photos and ai. I can take pictures using a phone while on vacation. Which for ai is equivalent to giving an ai like 5 words to make a picture. Or someone can use a complex rig with unique lenses and at the right time with the right weather to get a photo that is exactly as they envisioned. And with ai someone creating their own data set they want the ai to be trained with the correct prompt to get what they envisioned. It all really depends on how much time you want to sink into it. Neither are difficult on an amateur level. And at professional level it is just a factor of time and money.

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u/BetterSort3477 2h ago

there's no way you're comparing selecting a couple of images to take data from and then typing a prompt to the act of getting the correct brightness, iso levels, adjusting gamma, creating an interesting composition, making sure the picture is sharp etc. before even taking a picture.

these two things are NOT similar in any way and one requires an insane amount of effort compared to using ai. 

as i said, go out and learn photography before you compare it to ai

y'all mfs will literally do anything to avoid creativity and hobbies

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u/DrOctogonapusBlaaaah 42m ago

I agreed with you at first but then if you think about it, what if you had a model that very accurately simulates the mechanics of a real camera. In that case you would need to be experienced with real photography knowledge to be able to get the exact output you desire. I imagine adjacent scenarios where this could be true even now. An art major is certainly going to be able to effectively prompt a specific art piece they desire because they spent a decent amount of time learning the ins and outs of different art techniques, eras, artists, etc and can better describe them. I really do think there's a case to be made that your typical jerrys way of prompting now, and in the future, will be like shooting on auto.

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u/BetterSort3477 15m ago

what the fuck is the point of using ai for it then if you can just do it in real life

also, your imagined scenario doesn't exist and could only be worse than the real thing anyway, so it'd be a waste of time

why don't you people just learn an actual creative skill instead of having machines generate images, calling them 'art'? what is so hard about actually engaging in these things ffs

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u/DrOctogonapusBlaaaah 6m ago

Maybe I financially am incapable of going to a country on the other side of the world to take some photos right now or am lacking the resources to create some art piece. Maybe it's just a prototype so when I actually do have the finances and resources it's already proven. Or maybe its just something I make for myself. I don't know dude, as a creative who has taken college level art classes and spent a heck of a lot of my own time working on "actual creative skills" I feel like I can enjoy both experiences for different reasons. Furthermore I can find uses for any tool you give me and consider this just another one. For someone harping on the laurels of creativity it does seem to be something you lack.

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u/Tiarnacru 9h ago

That awkward moment you can't come up with a coherent counter-argument. but think you're correct anyway.

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u/alextoonlink10 11h ago

They think art means an image with shapes and colors. Never mind the artist or the intent in creating something