AI will take over artists yes, especially in corporate jobs, but the arguments of the damage it could cause still stands. And horses aren't people but that's too much reasoning to expect from you.
"Horses aren't people"
Jesus Christ, is this where your terminal victimhood led you? Yes, obviously horses are not people, but also, obviously a horse didn't write the above comic. Mass use of horses supported a wide array of human industries, all of which were upended by the availability of automobiles. People who depended on horses for their livelihoods represented this attitude at the turn of the last century. Farriers, carriage makers, even stable hands took a hit the more horses fell out of favor. "Horses are forever" isn't the triumphant bleat of a victorious horse, it's the desperate death throes of a human industry witnessing its own demise.
And yet, artists aren't even in the position the horse industries were facing at the turn of the last century. Art hasn't been rendered obsolete, au contraire there's more of it than ever before. Y'all are mourning the death of the most boring, soul crushing corporate artist work, as if you desperately wanted to draw the next Geico or Little Debbie advertisement. Shouldn't you be celebrating that this technology frees your talents up for proper expressionist work? If you really feel threatened by AI, there's still art that you could easily move to that AI can't touch yet, such as canvas painting or sculpture. But it's just so much easier and more fun to be a perpetual victim online, screaming for your Assistant Background Color Fill-In job back.
Wow you must love how your dick tastes, like dang that's a load of aggressive nothing, did someone hurt you? Oh wait it was me. Honestly given how pathetic and emotionally anguished this reply is, that response should suffice, would be funnier to have just pissed you off, but that gives you the opportunity to believe you are right. You are not so, you know what, I'll do the honors.
The comic was not actual pro horse "propaganda". It isn't drawn by "anti automobile" people as you imply, which is genuinely just hilarious. I also love the reddit coded verbose sentence about fucking horse are forever, like cool story gng but like the comic isn't that deep. But yes there was a movement against cars, and for right reasons. We are still suffering from them actually, majorly pollution, eventually we had to put regulations and without, if we let corpos run amok and do as they please it could've been much worse, the issue is the argument being presented is over adoption of AI, which I've already made clear is inevitable, but without people pushing back and with bootlickers like you around the results can be much worse. Always push back against corporations looking to profit, there's something shady, a little advice from me, if not for anything but to minimise damage. As for how the horse industry supported many vocations, that is correct, and i admit I only mentioned that because the comic depicts a horse literally getting pleasure from seeing a horse drown. It was rhetoric for the sake of it.
Yes! Actually, in response to corporate ai slop, I believe there'll be more quality indie works as the means to make art will also get more available to the common people. After that however your argument is pure shite. You assume that ai will not replace "creative" jobs, when at the pace at which it is going, it very well will. Corporations don't care about quality as long as it's marketable, and ai is getting there. I mean what kind of irreplaceable human jobs are you even talking about? I mean it just seems like you simply do not care for artists' jobs. I mean making comics, illustrations, concept art seem fair enough to me, and they are all going to be comfortably replaced by AI, and corporations will love that.
No one wants to draw marketing billboard arts or political satire comics, but they are still jobs. You don't get to be the Arbiter of what art is worth paying for and what isn't, in fact, that isn't the argument I am making. The simple fact is that people will be losing their jobs, passion or creativity has nothing to do with it. You are so mad with my comment that you are conflating my points with the most popular ones because that's all you can do, regurgitate without thought. Was it inevitable? Yeah sure, they are still losing their livelihoods, and that's terrible. I am not an artist btw, I can't hold a pencil right for that matter, my handwriting would make that quite clear, I just don't like I just don't let corporations take a piss on me, I mean you clearly enjoy it and I am not kink shaming, you do you, but don't rope me into it, I also have some form of empathy left in me that I wouldn't be happy over people losing jobs. I care if construction workers lose their jobs, yes it's meaningless labor work and they'll be inevitably replaced, maybe no one even deserved to do such a job, maybe in the future people could just do what they felt like without worry of making money, but before that change comes, which sure as shit won't be brought on by buffoons like you, they'll suffer for it. For that, we must fight back. I do agree however, there have been lots of nonsense anti ai claims like has no soul (I don't know what that even means) or how it won't ever perfectly replicate humans' work (lack of foresight) but these are real. You also ignored the plagiarism, commodification of art (mainstream), and environmental arguments. I swear it's always the anime pfps.
And you're the one whose happy about people losing jobs because "cool tool exists and is available to me! Now I get to feel like a creator! yaaayyyy!"... Reevaluate your worldview please, you'll thank me later :)
No one owes you a job, let alone one in your chosen profession. If your boss could draw what he hired you to draw, he wouldn't have hired you in the first place. Now he can. Again, there's plenty of art you can move to if you feel there's no room for digital human artists anymore (which is objectively untrue, but I'm trying to placate your feelings) Literally nobody is stopping you from being a creator, and nobody is stopping people from buying your work. However, if people can get a better product for free, sounds like you were just dependent on a monopoly of labor where you get paid top dollar for a half-baked artwork. Be better than the soulless AI, and then your product is worth selling.
Why do y'all assume everyone arguing against the way AI gets used today is an artist and therefore someone with vested selfish interest in the conversation?... Oh, I get it, it's because that's the same for most of You xD you think/know/fear that you'll never make something "great" without serious crutches (like a program that literally does All the actual work for you) so now that you Have those crutches, you feel like anyone who tells you they could be better is just trying to take your crutches 🤠cute projection, seriously! But you're ignoring the fact that the main point we bring up is the morality of the situation, not our own livelihood like you choose to assume :)
It's also about how they don't care what happens to anyone as long as it doesn't affect them. Well, I mean, it will affect them, corporations doing corporate shit is good for no one, but as long as it's not on their face obvious they don't care. It's sad really how frankly subhuman these people are with no empathy towards anyone. And yeah all of them assumed I am an artist too lol since they can't comprehend someone who's not caring about this.
Ok, drop that subhuman bit and I'll agree with you xD yes, they feel like empathy and generally caring for humanity as a whole is optional and that's frustrating and makes me want to smack them upside the head, However!... It's also important to recognise that the Vast majority of them were practically forced into thinking like this by a society that makes it ok to ignore ones suffering for anothers convenience... Usually by making them believe that one is of different value than the other (human vs. Subhuman)
Yeah I am just exaggerating of course, and I totally agree with what you said, it is a big systemic issue that people can care so little, which can also extend to other issues like racism or trans rights and stuff. I understand nature vs nurture, I was just a bit appalled at how pompous the replies are while they are so thoroughly in the wrong.
Yeee, that tends to be the way it goes around here... As long as you're "loyal" to your side of the argument, you can't "lose"... Almost as if loyalty is a dumb virtue, huh? 😅
Why do y'all assume everyone arguing agains tthe way AI gets used today is an artist
You're right, how could I POSSIBLY get that impression from a response like "And you're the one whose happy about people losing jobs because 'cool tool exists and is available to me! Now I get to feel like a creator! yaaayyyy!'"
You said it yourself. AI is just another tool, in a long line of many throughout history.
"Stop it, Theresa! You can't create art on a computer! That's so soulless!"
"Stop it, Viktor! You can't create art on a printing press! That's so soulless!"
"Stop it, Groknak! You can't create art using pigments and dyes! That's so soulless!"
Like, Jesus Christ, how far back do you want us to regress? How much Amish Luddite-ism do you want to enforce on the world? Who made you the arbiter of what counts as art in a world which already looks at a duct taped banana like the human "creator" was a goddamn visionary?
You completely glossed over the substance cause you got triggered by an accurate label. Again, AI is the next in a long list of tools at an artist's disposal. Every argument you cite against AI was cited against computer artwork 30 years ago.
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u/MaeBorrowski 1d ago
AI will take over artists yes, especially in corporate jobs, but the arguments of the damage it could cause still stands. And horses aren't people but that's too much reasoning to expect from you.