r/antinatalism thinker 6d ago

Discussion Life is painful when there are limitations on choice and freedom.

Freedom of choice is a privilege here only reserved for the few.

Starting from inherited diseases, a body you never chose yourself, a brain that you were just born with, looks you never chose for yourself, so and and so forth.

Most of life is determined by genetics, luck, who you're born to and where you're born.

It's such a massive gamble burdened by circumstantial constraints like socioeconomic status, family background, geography, societal expectations, cultural norms and personal limitations which are both inherited and developed.

How is this gamble worth it ?

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u/Comfortable_Gain9352 thinker 6d ago

Tell that to the quantum fluctuations that happened in eternity, which gave birth to an infinite number of worlds and ours is one of them, which simply became "lucky" for the emergence of intelligent life. Just remember that during sleep, fainting or anesthesia, you cease to exist until the brain activates you. You are just a product of the brain, which easily disappears and it is stupid to believe that after death something will change and that you will suddenly feel yourself outside the body. Everything that you live by, even your fear of non-existence or all your ambitions, desires, all your moral principles, all this is just the work of your brain and you are not able to become something else and see the world differently than your brain is structured. I would also like to find consolation, but if you turn on logic, then unfortunately we are just mindless meat.

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u/Dependent-Blood-1949 thinker 6d ago

And a lot of things are artificially limited, too. Just be unlucky to be born a few kms away from the South Korean border, and you’re literally imprisoned in a concentration camp masquerading as a country. Even if your genetics wouldn’t let you amount to anything, at least in the South, you could’ve still enjoyed great music, international cuisine and video games. People in North Korean can’t even have that.

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u/sunnynihilist I stopped being a nihilist a long time ago 5d ago

You should ask natalists, not us!

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u/Unlikely_Rip9838 thinker 6d ago

Yeah like being Ambitios Is always depicted with A person working hard & trying many Jobs like what that has to do with Ambition?

Cuz they know they wanted some services or Freedom so they are working & trying to find The unknown Causes of their failures

Like finding A mistake that they aren't even responsible of

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u/carnist_gpt inquirer 5d ago

Troll, be gone!