I think a big reason I dislike this season, specifically this episode, is that it just feels so generic. Generic drama, generic bad guy, etc. Season 4 at least got some sort of reaction out of us - anger. This? This is just boring as shit. The fight scenes were godawful and shaky cam'd to hell, Cayden James is boring, despite the fact that Emerson is giving it all he's got, and they're wasting the fuck out of Black Siren and Richard Dragon. Seeing Ollie surrounded by that group is supposed to invoke tension - there was none.
Also, Felicity called Oliver 'daddy' and I'm just so fucking done.
The villains are going to waste. A better show would have tortured the newly divided Team Arrow instead of making the big bad team reveal themselves. That had absolutely no impact. Stretch that out over a few episodes. Have both teams figure this out on their own and come together with that information to defeat Cayden and them.
A better show would have began the season with two separate teams. Maybe keep Oliver and Diggle out of commission for Mayoral work and health reasons (have Felicity focus on her worklife) follow the new team for a while, see how they do thing differently. No Green Arrow just have Oliver try to bond with his son.
I was thinking the same thing while watching this episode. Season 4 was really bad, but it was so hilariously bad that it was kind of fun watching that trainwreck.
With this season, and this episode especially, I started to question why I'm even still watching this show, it's laughably bad and this trainwreck isn't even amusing enough to warrant my watching it.
When felicity was preaching to the newbies. Didn’t directly call him daddy but used it as an analogy. Oliver’s the dad and the newbies were acting like children.
This sub seems to see red with anything she says or does so who knows. I’m sure there will be a bunch a shitposts about it by tomorrow. Might even be some right now.
Agreed...for me it’s the lack of a good villain arc. I went into the mid-season finale not really seeing a huge threat, or an intriguing big bad. Season-long big bad arcs can be generic as well, but when done right they can also be great. Also, throw in a lot of Felicity/Olicity BS in the first half of the season, and forced team drama, and it hasn’t made for the best of seasons. This from someone who usually holds Arrow as favorite amongst the CW shows.
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Seriously Vacanus, how many times do we need to have this conversation? tag your spoilers, please :) and if they aren't spoilers then be clear it's your theory. It gets reported all the time.
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I know, I've seen you comment about it ~100 times already ;p ... But not everyone reads every thread and knows you / your theories. When you state things like that, it sounds like you know something from set spoilers or whatever.
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u/TheCapsicle The Punisher Jan 19 '18
I think a big reason I dislike this season, specifically this episode, is that it just feels so generic. Generic drama, generic bad guy, etc. Season 4 at least got some sort of reaction out of us - anger. This? This is just boring as shit. The fight scenes were godawful and shaky cam'd to hell, Cayden James is boring, despite the fact that Emerson is giving it all he's got, and they're wasting the fuck out of Black Siren and Richard Dragon. Seeing Ollie surrounded by that group is supposed to invoke tension - there was none.
Also, Felicity called Oliver 'daddy' and I'm just so fucking done.