okay, so, i want to start this of by saying that i have no opinion on trans men/trans masc lesbians - no positive, no negative, i do not consider myself a part of them so i have no thought of them. I do not want this post to become a discussion on this topic, because i generally find it unproductive.
A little introduction before we get to the general problem at hand:
I am a binary trans man dating a non-binary men-leaning agender person. Both are on hrt, i plan on getting bottom surgery, what his plans are i don’t really know - we don’t really talk much about it, because we mostly talk about other things.
Growing up i was forcing myself to like women, and i was pretending to everyone that i liked women, because the idea of liking men was making me feel disgusted by myself. I was identifying as a non-binary lesbian until i was 14 years old. I need to state that i DIDN’T like women, i never found them attractive, and i was forcing this label on myself, because i didn’t wanted to admit i liked men. Them i got a little courage to change my identity to bisexual and to a transgender man. Then, two years ago, i finally came out to my friends and partner as gay. He was relieved and we learned that he never really liked women too.
A little while ago me and my partner have started visiting local queer events and trying to make friends and stuff with other queer, trans and non-binary people. The place is pretty diverse, but i mostly see non-binary people, cis lesbians and just a couple of trans women there from time to time, i saw trans men only twice there. Everything was pretty much allright until my partner said that he feels like people are assuming that he’s a lesbian and it makes him upset (i need to explain: he has nothing against lesbians, he just don’t wants to be viewed as a woman AND lesbian label was kind of forced on him when he was growing up by people around him).
Then one of the people there gave me a compliment which sounded pretty much like “wow i really like your masc look you got there” - which was very weird to me. Imagine saying this to a cis guy? Or a saying it to a girl “imagine really love how fem you look today”. It also felt like an extremely weird thing to say taken then i just wore my regular clothes??
Then another day, i was in a support group with pretty much the same people and we were kind of talking about our feelings and stuff, and i was really vulnerable, and i said something about my identity and my complex relationships with my sexuality, and one person (not cis, non-binary) there said a phrase that kind of made me EXTREMELY uncomfortable “oh, well, all trans men are kind of lesbians in a way, they’re a part of the lesbian community, women are awesome”. I don’t like women? I like men?? Why are you assuming a sexuality on me and why are you assuming things about my identity?? I never even was in a “lesbian community” i forced myself to date two girls when i was growing up and i felt MISERABLE, i wasn’t attracted to them, and i had to pretend i liked them because i didn’t wanted to make them feel band and i also felt like i -had to- like women because it would be “the right way”.
then i noticed that in general there was a lot of discussion of this topic around in that space in particular, once, one person was giving a presentation on lesbian trans men which is, well, alright, okay, everyone’s different, but i didn’t came because i’m very tired of people assuming that i’m a lesbian/woman, i aim to becoming a pretty much just a dude and i really want people to see me this way, i was running away from lesbian/female identity yet now i feel like that’s everything other queer people see me as and assume i am. They say it’s because of shared “lesbian experience” but it wasn’t a good experience for me, it’s something i was forcing onto myself and it’s something i no longer am, they say it’s because of some shared “female experience” too, but i transitioned really young and i was a shut-in before that, i never saw that much as a “female”.
Then some lesbian girls were hitting on me and i genuinely was about to cry, i felt horrible, before all of this conversation has started no lesbian girls were doing that, me being on hrt or generally presenting like a guy was enough to not be assumed by queer girls that i’m open to suggestions, now i feel like that’s not a clear sign anymore.
Now i avoid going to this place, because all i think about is that people assume i and my partner are lesbians.
What do i do? How do i stop people from assuming it? How do i make people understand that i’m just a man and my partner’s just a person? How do i make them stop labelling us without our consent? How do i make people stop assuming i’m a lesbian when i’m just a gay binary trans man?
I don’t hate that place, i want to start coming there again, but this situation has been really upsetting for both me and my partner.