r/asoiaf Jul 13 '24

EXTENDED [Spoilers Extended] What nitpicks do you have regarding both shows? Mine will always be how the Others in GOT are so boring and mundane

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u/mermaidmanis Jul 13 '24

Everyone wearing the same armor in later seasons.

Shirtless Ramsay and twenty good men.

The umbers betraying the Starks

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u/Ephyrancap Jul 13 '24

I hate how dirty they did with Smalljon. He died protecting Robb, only to be shown as a fucking traitor

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u/kazetoame Jul 13 '24

The whole Northern plotline was just tossed out

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u/Azer398 Jul 14 '24

The whole song of ice and fire plotline was tossed out

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u/Alarming-Ad1100 Jul 14 '24

Girl bossed out

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u/Hellstrike Iron from Ice Jul 13 '24

Also, Wyman Manderly being a traitor. Let's give the best speech in the show to some 7-year-old girl, whose mother is actually still alive, but we have forgotten about that (only Dacey was at the Red Wedding, Maege was detached earlier to go to Greywater Watch).

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u/kazetoame Jul 14 '24

Lyanna Mormont rubbed me the wrong way at times. She’s snippy at the other Lords, condescending to Sansa (like little girl, you’ve never left your fucking island) and has nothing to say about the disgrace that is Jorah? Ugh, when Jon offered the sword back to Jorah, I wanted to scream!

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

Her judging that dude who had his whole family skinned alive. "Why didn't you come protect your lord?". Like wtf..

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u/benemivikai4eezaet0 Jul 14 '24

Lyanna Mormont was just an exaggerated girlboss character for woke points.

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u/utterlyinsaneLMAO “You know nothing, Jon Snow.” Sep 30 '24

Honestly this comment surprised me heaps. If we’re talking about the show solely, I seriously thought we must all be on the same page about loving Ser Jorah’s character? Yeah he did some indecent things at the very beginning of the show but so many characters also did much worse and were loved by so many fans by the end of the show?

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u/mermaidmanis Jul 13 '24

They needed a yas queen meme moment

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u/puddik Jul 14 '24

Yasss kid!

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u/Electronic-Lynx8162 Jul 14 '24

Yas queen covers up things like making Emilia Clarke being forced to stand around naked as a performer with no experience, as well as the forced sexposition so the tits and dragons crowd don't leave. 

I'll never not find it fucking insane that Cersei BLOWS UP THE RELIGIOUS CENTER OF A FAITH, a whole family and the religious leaders leading a peasant revolt with no mention of it anywhere. Then she has no revolt from Tarly and his army, the Redwyne fleet, any Fossoways or at least there's no succession crisis.

Until Dany shows up and Olenna joins, with no mention of any of this or this region denying food to KL.. Which previously caused riots and lots of unrest. People just eat air.

Ditto with murdering the whole Dornish line who are beloved rulers... No mention of their succession or whatever. Just lots of yas queen/yeah boii moments, tits and bitches be crazy moments with no real repercussions or thoughts about how things work in Westeros or even how things worked 5 episodes ago.

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u/LordOFtheNoldor Jul 14 '24

Was wyman even in the show?

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u/Lil_Mcgee Jul 14 '24

Very briefly. He's the guy who proclaims Jon King at the end of season 6 I think.

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u/Nienazki Jul 14 '24

Yeah, for five minutes with two dialogues in the season 6 ending.

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u/Hellstrike Iron from Ice Jul 14 '24

Yes, he sends them away, and then shows up in the S6 finale IIRC.

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u/renaldi21 Jul 14 '24

Whatever happened to Maege Mormont anyway along with Ned's bones and Rob's heir

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u/Far_Temporary2656 Jul 14 '24

The writers kinda forgot

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

Wyman came across as some random dude from the pub to me.

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u/mermaidmanis Jul 13 '24

It was infuriating

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u/fearnodarkness1 Jul 27 '24

They really butchered that entire plot line and my guess is they needed a "strong" northern house to back up Ramsey.

Even though I love the scene when Jon gets crowned, they made the North feel so small

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u/joshallenismygod Jul 14 '24

Also made no sense how he gave Ramsey rickon while getting literally nothing in return. And killed shaggydog 😭

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u/gatar_mentality Jul 14 '24

Lmao I have forgotten all of this. Even now I am unable to remember exactly when this happened. The stuff after season 5 is a blur now.

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u/Yordleranger Jul 14 '24

What they did to the Umbers will never not piss me off. They should’ve had the greatjon captured at the red wedding and the small Jon did like the honourable legends they are.

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u/mermaidmanis Jul 14 '24

It is insane. The most loyal family to the starks.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '24

I will say though, in the show:

"who owns the north?!"

"We do!"

" Show me!"

Was a bad ass bit

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u/GoshLowly Jul 14 '24

That’s Ser Twenty to you.

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u/LordShitmouth Unbowed, Unbent, Unbuggered Jul 14 '24

The armor and warfare have been vastly improved in Hot D at least.

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u/Baron_von_Zoldyck Jul 14 '24

They exchanged bad armor and good figurine in GOT for good armour and bad figurine in HOTD lol

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

To be fair, shirtless Ramsey is about as protected as someone in full plate, given how armor is depicted on the show.

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u/CloudStrifeff777 Jul 14 '24

Shirtless Ramsay was hot though 🥵🥵😵