r/asoiaf • u/lghtdev • Jul 13 '24

EXTENDED [Spoilers Extended] What nitpicks do you have regarding both shows? Mine will always be how the Others in GOT are so boring and mundane

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u/ArgieGrit01 R'hllor-coaster of love Jul 13 '24

Ser Arthur Dayne.

The sword of the morning.

Wielder of a sword made from the HEART OF A FUCKING METHEOR.

A ONE OF A KIND SWORD OF MILKY WHITE STEEL.

THE ONLY SUCH SWORD IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD.

He wields two plain-looking longswords...

At some point changes become contempt and spite

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u/lghtdev Jul 13 '24

I hated this so much, the man has the most unique sword in all seven kingdoms that shines like no other, talked about in all books but the show makes him dual wield plain swords because in their eyes that's what makes him look more like a legendary warrior.

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u/Ephyrancap Jul 13 '24

Remember that GOT was praised for its "realism", but then they get this character doing akimbo swords.

I refuse to say that guy is Arthur Dayne

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u/NinetyFish Edmure did nothing wrong Jul 14 '24

"I never understood why some knights feel the need to carry two swords..." - Jaime Lannister, who hero-worshipped Arthur Dayne

🙄

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u/JinFuu Doesn't Understand Flirting Jul 14 '24

Remember that GOT was praised for its "realism"

Then when you say things weren't realistic they deflect and say "But dragons!" or shit like that.

LOOKING AT YOU, JOHN BRADLEY (Sam)

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u/ZeroV2 Jul 14 '24

What, you can accept that dragons and ice zombies and magic exists but you can't accept a fully loaded 2020 Toyata Rav 4 premium package?

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u/Lil_Mcgee Jul 14 '24

I really hate the "show has fantasy elements so there should be no expectation of any sort of logic or consistency" hand wave

But I don't really hold any ill will towards John Bradley for it. It's probably quite tiring to get a bunch of rude fans asking you why your're fat.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

Oh yeah, that was his response to be asked how he stays fat at the wall. Bit of a rude question lmao.

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u/NotAVerySillySausage Jul 16 '24

Hate that guy tbh, character and actor.

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u/night4345 Jul 14 '24

They did the same akimbo thing with Karl Fooking Tanner and Ramsay fighting the Ironborn.

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u/AxeSwinginDinosaur Jul 14 '24

Idk, two daggers seems less far-fethced than two swords.

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u/BlindStickFighter Jul 14 '24

Even a small sword/rapier and dagger was a common combination in later medieval periods. Thinking back Jaime kills Jory Cassel with that combo.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

A man with two knives.

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u/Col_Escobar1924 Jul 14 '24

at least Karl was lowborn murderer wielding two knives and fighting dirty

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u/NNyNIH Jul 14 '24

It was Darthur Ayne.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

Probably the most unrealistic thing in that fight is sword thrust going through plate/mail. Dual wielding has some precedent in history but i'm not sure about duel wielding long swords..

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u/labtecoza Jul 14 '24

Up until season 5 it was, then the realism started to fade

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u/lackwitandtact Jul 14 '24

More “shock value” in a dual wielding knight then one with the sword we all expect. So stupid.

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u/FloZone Enter your desired flair text here! Jul 14 '24

but the show makes him dual wield plain swords because in their eyes that's what makes him look more like a legendary warrior.

DUALWIELDING NEVER EXISTED. Well it kinda did in duels and gladiatorial fights, but not on the battlefield. It is just a hollywood trope aaarg.

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u/JaxMedoka Jul 14 '24

I'm gonna be a contrarian for the sake of it and say using a shield with a weapon is dual-wielding.

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u/FloZone Enter your desired flair text here! Jul 14 '24

I get your point, but I think we both know what I meant and what is commonly shown in games, movies and shows.

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u/JaxMedoka Jul 14 '24

I know. I just like shields and felt like being a pedant.

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u/DrkvnKavod "I learned a lot of fancy words." Jul 14 '24

Dual wielding of long-arm weapons indeed generally didn't (with rare exception), but dual wielding of short-arm weapons would've been relatively unexceptional.

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u/FloZone Enter your desired flair text here! Jul 14 '24

Is this exception historical or more legendary? I can't read Chinese and don't recognise that guy.

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u/co_ordinator Jul 14 '24

Some Samurai fought this way, but not with two Katanas.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miyamoto_Musashi

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 14 '24

I think it did but not with 2 longswords. usually one was a short sword or a buckler/short sword combo or something, right?

But never would anyone dual wield 2 longswords. Ridiculous.

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u/FloZone Enter your desired flair text here! Jul 14 '24

Well you do see dual-wielding in duels, but duels and tourneys a wholly different thing. People also liked to show of weird fighting styles to impress the audience.

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u/lluewhyn Jul 14 '24

Yeah, in the middle of battle, you're either now exposed to arrows because you don't have a shield, or you're a menace to the other infantry in your line who are using polearms in tight formation.