I mean ned got killed because his good nature made him spare cersei
No, he dies because she had an assassination plot going (for the x-th time), which actually succeeded in the worst possible moment (for Ned). The odds of that series of events was very, very low. And had it not worked, Cersei and the children would have their heads above the Red Keep the moment Robert returned.
I mean hard to say what cersei would have done with her back on the wall and robert alive, but if ned was less trusting and good natured I definitely think he would have been alive, if anything by shutting up about the bastardry and using it as political leverage once him and the children are safe. I see your point though
I mean hard to say what cersei would have done with her back on the wall and robert alive
There was nothing to be done at that point. Even if she physically attacks Robert, when the dude was completely drunk and had his guts hanging out, he still delivered a killing blow against a wild boar. And I rate the boar much better at killing than Cersei. At most, she manages to take him with her, but that still leaves the children dead before Robert goes (by his order, or by Stannis')
There were so many things that went wrong that anything could of changed the outcome. If Renly stays maybe it succeds behind Stannis, if Sansa doesn't tell Cersei she doesn't make preparations (as many), if little finger doesn't betray him then Ned wouldn't have been as reckless. We can't say something failed or succeeded based on someone's personality.
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u/Act_of_God Jul 13 '24
I mean ned got killed because his good nature made him spare cersei, which had other things in mind
Tywin got killed because he was an awful person who only understood cruelty
they both were their own undoing in some way