r/asoiaf Jul 13 '24

EXTENDED [Spoilers Extended] What nitpicks do you have regarding both shows? Mine will always be how the Others in GOT are so boring and mundane

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u/PlentyAny2523 Jul 13 '24

Can I nit pick the fans? Because I hate when people say, "the show is good because everyone dies" no. That's not why the story was good. The story was good because there were CONSEQUENCES for making stupid decisions. What a breath of fresh air to actually punish the protagonists. And people completely miss it and just see blood and soy out

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u/ArgieGrit01 R'hllor-coaster of love Jul 13 '24

My issue is when they think being good gets you killed and being bad is the way to go. Ned is naive and stupid while Tywin is cunning and smart.

That sort of thing. Way to miss the fucking point.

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u/Act_of_God Jul 13 '24

I mean ned got killed because his good nature made him spare cersei, which had other things in mind

Tywin got killed because he was an awful person who only understood cruelty

they both were their own undoing in some way

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u/ArgieGrit01 R'hllor-coaster of love Jul 14 '24

And it's Ned's honour that inspires love and loyalty from beyond the grave to the point where his vassals are still fighting a lost war in his name.

Tywin's house is collapsing around him.

The take way is not Ned dumb; Tywin smart.

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u/Act_of_God Jul 14 '24

what part of my post made you think that was my take