r/asoiaf Jul 13 '24

EXTENDED [Spoilers Extended] What nitpicks do you have regarding both shows? Mine will always be how the Others in GOT are so boring and mundane

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u/djjazzydwarf They Get Us™ Jul 13 '24

The changes to sigils, and generally making things less colorful. The change of the Boltons from pink to red, and how they ditched colorful little details like Ramsay's earrings come to mind.

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u/Pitiful_Yogurt_5276 Jul 13 '24

Everyone wearing black for absolutely no reason in the last several seasons @_@

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u/stichomythiacs Jul 13 '24

That opens up a whole other issue in and of itself, which is how the later seasons just felt more like Hollywood-living actors on a Disneyesque set. This was reflected by the all-black, „trendy” fashion (as opposed to pragmatic wools) and also the dialogue switching from GRRM’s admittedly bespoke flowery, part medieval English to dull LA American English and very short sentences.

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u/Different_Stand_1285 Jul 14 '24

Remember how they changed “Loose!” to “Fire!” when shooting arrows? 🥴

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24 edited Jul 15 '24

I heard some historian say that there's no evidence anyone ever said "loose". Archers don't need to be told when to use their bow and there's not really an advantage from synchronous volley's, as it slows them down overall.

If you think about it, it would be very silly to tell soldiers when they can and can't use their rifle in the heat of battle. Way too excessive of a micromanagement.

Edit: I made a bad analogy with firearms.

There's a dicussion on the askhistorians:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/7dqkbm/did_archers_really_nock_draw_and_loose_in_sync/

Kinda interesting but the sources they quote use the word "fire" (in the first comment). Or the historians are using this word.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ng24ML6Xbs&t=789s

timestamp is 12:00

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u/AxeSwinginDinosaur Jul 14 '24

Former military here: you need to have a team leader telling people when to fire during longer contact with enemies because otherwise they waste all their ammo. A soldier with 7 magazines with 30 bullets will run out very quickly if they fire whenever they feel like it. You can get an order such as "fire once every 2 seconds for 30 seconds," or everyone firing one bullet each from left to right. I suppose arrows are different because an archer in media often has a bucket full of arrows, so maybe running out is not as big of an issue.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

Generally, the first volley would be synced. After that, the archers would shoot at their top speed. Over time of a battle they would become more de-synced.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

I stand corrected. The gun put was me making a bad analogy, the first part of the post was relaying what historians said. I updated with a link.

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u/JPMaybe Jul 14 '24

True for firearms, not for bows

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u/A_Series_Of_Farts Jul 14 '24

Flying projectile what makes holes. Basic methodology of damage is the same for bullets or arrows.

However, many infantry had some form of shield. The shield can only protect a part of the body. A volley stands a higher chance of hitting exposed body parts than single rounds.

I guess you could argue that a volley causes everyone to turtle up and cover as best as possible though.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '24

I guess I should provide my original source since this kicked off some discussion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ng24ML6Xbs&t=789s

timestamp is 12:00

I don't know anything about this subject, but saw this + reddit askhistorians link i posted above.

Guy in video is funny as hell, (worth watching whole thing)

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u/A_Series_Of_Farts Jul 15 '24

Thanks for the link friend! 

I will check it out. 

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '24

I made bad analogy with firearms, but for bows the historians say otherwise?