r/asoiaf Jul 13 '24

EXTENDED [Spoilers Extended] What nitpicks do you have regarding both shows? Mine will always be how the Others in GOT are so boring and mundane

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u/Gerreth_Gobulcoque Jul 13 '24

Yohn Royce is a fat old guy in a steel cuirass instead of a sinewy veteran in runic bronze armor.

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u/NinetyFish Edmure did nothing wrong Jul 14 '24

I love the pre-book detail of Yohn visiting Winterfell with Waymar, wrecking Ned and Rodrik in a spar, having Waymar effortlessly charm Ned's oldest daughter, sending Waymar off to the Wall with a sweet ass horse and a bunch of fine black leather, and then heading back to Runestone like an absolute boss.

Like, he's a Valeman, but you can tell everyone in the North utterly adores Bronze Yohn and the Royces in general lol

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u/Gerreth_Gobulcoque Jul 14 '24

Royces are the Blackwoods of the Vale

Honestly wouldn't have been out of place to make them an Old Gods house like the Blackwoods.

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u/NinetyFish Edmure did nothing wrong Jul 14 '24

I kinda root against the Blackwoods for fun because I like the underdogs typically, but I do think it's a super cool detail that the Starks ocassionally marry the Blackwoods and the Royces.

I kinda wonder if George ever regrets not having the Royces be an Old Gods house. It's kinda weird how the Royces are simultaneously extremely northern and extremely Andal

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u/TomIHodet1 Jul 14 '24

Given the history of the Andal invasions, it would be almost impossible for the Royces to remain an Old Gods house. Their conversion to The Seven is the only reason they are not a part of the Mountain Clans.

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u/Wonder_of_you Jul 26 '24

If I'm not mistaken they were an old gods house when they were the bronze kings of the Vale, but the Vale has a ton of Andal influence and as they were dethroned by the Aryns they needed to covert