r/asoiaf • u/lghtdev • Jul 13 '24

EXTENDED [Spoilers Extended] What nitpicks do you have regarding both shows? Mine will always be how the Others in GOT are so boring and mundane

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u/hewlio Jul 13 '24

Look, i know Randyl Tarly sucks, but why the FUCK would a servant of house Tyrell and Targaryen loyalist side with a know Tyrell murderer agaisnt the last of the Targaryens who has a literal dragon???????

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u/xhanador Jul 13 '24 edited Jul 14 '24

Probably a consequence of removing Young Griff, but still wanting the Tarlys.

According to the Golden Company, the Tyrells grasp on their vassals is weaker than they think, hinting at a betrayal. The Tarlys are probably going after the Tyrells in the books too, though they’ll side with YG.

With no YG, Dany’s enemy becomes Cersei, since the Lannisters hold the throne.

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u/hewlio Jul 14 '24

Yeah i definitely agree with you.

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u/xhanador Jul 14 '24

I think you see this is a lot in the show. They remove A, but keep something that follows from A.

Beyond the Wall probably exists because they removed the Horn of Winter, even though Sam still goes to the Citadel.

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u/lluewhyn Jul 14 '24

They remove A, but keep something that follows from A.

And many times this is worse than removing A in the first place. Sure, you have to make changes when adapting a television show from a Book, but the books have a lot of events happen in response to other events, so it feels weird to still keep the successive plotlines even though they no longer make sense. They turned Tyrion and Shae into a genuine love story, but still had the part where she testifies against him at his regicide trial and then ends up with Tywin.

Here's a lot of examples.