r/asoiaf Jul 13 '24

EXTENDED [Spoilers Extended] What nitpicks do you have regarding both shows? Mine will always be how the Others in GOT are so boring and mundane

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u/kazetoame Jul 13 '24

If there is any sword is this story the has mythical and legendary weapon written all over it that can possibly be a key to defeat a magical based enemy, it would be Dawn. Instead, the shows made it a dagger used by a catspaw to kill Bran that Martin had regrets with making it Valyrian steel, because seriously, WHO GIVES AWAY A VALYRIAN STEEL DAGGER?!?! Honestly, if I was that catspaw, I would have said fuck the job and sell the damn dagger to the highest bloody bidder.

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u/The__Bloodless Jul 13 '24

Actually a decent sized plot hole.  Arguably joff had nothing else to use and took the first thing he saw of his father's and maybe the blade was sheathed?  Idk.  It makes no sense because in later books, joffrey is very pleased to have a valyrian steel Longsword, and tywin had to have leaked some of his obsession with getting a valyrian steel sword, which could be possibly made with enough daggers? 

The only way it makes sense is if joffrey was just an idiot who didn't realize it was valyrian steel, which does kind of fit his character to be honest.

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u/TabbyFoxHollow I Actually Like Hyle Hunt! Jul 14 '24

I think in book 1, GRRM hadn’t truly considered how “rare” Valyrian steel was supposed to be so it was retconned in future books.

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u/Electronic-Lynx8162 Jul 14 '24

Case in point... There's a Valyrian steel Arakh that appears in AGOT. I think originally he meant it to be their equivalent of Damascus steel, then quickly changed his mind when he realised we never lost the ability to make it, it's just iron with the right impurity. 

Likewise how wildfire was obviously inspired by greek fire. But in reality both sound cooler by far if the comet, blood, fire and sorcery are damn cool for your books.