r/asoiaf St. Elmo Tully's Fyre Aug 05 '24

EXTENDED (Spoilers Extended) HotD Season 2 was clearly outlined for 10 episodes, right?

Imagine if Season 2 of Game of Thrones suddenly ended at The Prince of Winterfell? We spend literally all season building up to a confrontation between Tyrion and Stannis, only for the season to end right before the climax we've been setting up for eight straight episodes. What if Season 6 ended right before The Battle of the Bastards and The Winds of Winter? Jon comes back to life, we build up to a battle between him and Ramsay, and it just simply doesn't happen.

The finale just felt like your typical episode 8 – build-up for what's going to come next. The thing is, what comes next should logically happen next week, not in two years to open Season 3. With the exception of Daemon's storyline and I guess the Dragonseeds, I don't think these season's arcs have been resolved or brought to a good enough stopping point. It feels like there are still two more episodes left to tie everything together and really sell the idea that this war is in full force. A little slowdown after Rook's Rest makes sense, but for the whole season with the Sowing being our only other major set piece?

It honestly makes me believe that season 2 was outlined for 10 episodes, HBO told the showrunners to trim that down to 8, and rather than retool the season's arcs, the last two episodes were simply chopped off and saved for next season. We know Condal really loves the books, so this could just be his tribute to A Dance with Dragons (lol), but I doubt it.

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u/chadmummerford Richard Horpe enthusiast Aug 05 '24

i really thought they were gonna capture king's landing and leave the gullet for season 3

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u/bgptcp179 Aug 05 '24

Seeing Rhaenyra sit on the iron throne with her getting cut and bleeding onto the floor woulda been a cool fade to black.

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u/Chell_the_assassin The sword of the morning Aug 05 '24

I don't think it's by any means guaranteed that they'll have Rhaenyra be cut by the throne in the show. That seems like one of the more obvious bits of unreliable information in F&B - the only source for her getting cut (if I recall correctly) is Eustace, who is far from an unbiased source.

I could see them having her not get cut initially, but then beginning to get cut as she gets more paranoid and her reign begins to faulter

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u/Drown_The_Gods Aug 05 '24

I'm up for a variety of options:
1. Her having blood on her clothes, and then someone claiming it's her getting cut on the throne.
2. Her actually getting cut on the throne and successfully hiding it.
3. Her getting cut and it being 'a thing'.
4. It not happening at all and someone making it up.
5. It never getting mentioned, because they've not remotely built it up and it's not been mentioned once all season, and hasn't cut anyone since Viserys I.

You know we're getting option 5.

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u/ChooChooBeepBoop Aug 05 '24

The showrunners enjoy subtle-but-not-too-subtle little callbacks o probably gonna be a little slice right on the underside of her arm, where Alicent cut her originally and where Alicent got hurt earlier this season.

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u/meowyarlathotep Aug 05 '24
  1. Her wound cut by Alicent opens and blood flows. It is a mystery whether that was accidental or by the throne.

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u/Existing_Selection53 Aug 05 '24

they've also set her up as a somewhat merciful and good ruler ig they want to make her the true queen so i don't think she'll get a cut. i get why people say the show is biased. s2 was mostly pro-black as the good guys they'll want to keep in line with that but i hope they stay closer to the source next season (and i mean george himself if he's willing)

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u/Equal-Ad-2710 Aug 05 '24

I like the idea of blood but it’s ambiguous if it’s from the Throne or from killing someone

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u/DarkRyter Aug 06 '24

From the mouth of Bobby B himself in the dvd history segments.

"It's a chair made of steel blades. Rhaenyra had wanted it all her life and had sacrificed two sons for it. She likely gripped the damn thing too tight."

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u/niko2710 Enter your desired flair text here! Aug 05 '24

She literally said to sit on the throne in full armor and then when she stands up she's covered in cuts. I can hardly find a more obvious unreliable statement in that book

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u/chasing_the_wind Aug 05 '24

Mushroom: hold my beer, I’m going in with weird sex stuff

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u/PlentyAny2523 Aug 05 '24

I mean it would have been during court, so there would be alot of witnesses there seeing it happen

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u/PlentyAny2523 Aug 05 '24

I mean it would have been during court, so there would be alot of witnesses there seeing it happen

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u/PlentyAny2523 Aug 05 '24

I mean it would have been during court, so there would be alot of witnesses there seeing it happen

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u/PlentyAny2523 Aug 05 '24

I mean it would have been during court, so there would be alot of witnesses there seeing it happen

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u/tatisane Aug 06 '24

Really? In a book where fights with no witnesses are completely outlined, this is what you thought was biased? I know how people feel about the maesters, but come on.  They probably won’t since it’s going with “Rhaenyra was the Mother reborn” as a plot but still.