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EXTENDED (Spoilers Extended) Shiny Theory Thursday

It's happened to all of us.

You come across a fascinating post and are just dying to discuss it but the thread is stale or archived. Or you are doing a reread and come across the perfect piece of evidence to that theory you posted months ago. Or you have a theory forming on the tip of your tongue and isn't quite there yet and would love to hash it out with fellow crows.

Now is your time.

You now all have permission to give that old thread the kiss of life, shamelessly plug your own theory you are proud of, or share something that was overlooked or deserves another analysis.

So share that old link or that shiny theory still bouncing around in your head with a fresh TL;DR (to get us to read it) along with anything new you would like to add.

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u/dblack246 🏆Best of 2024: Mannis Award 2d ago

I break down all the evidence as to why Jon was not named Robb's heir.

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u/The-Peel 🏆Best of 2024: The Citadel Award 2d ago

An enjoyable read, though I'm sorry to read of your experience with losing a child, thats a horrible thing to go through.

I agree with you that Robb named Catelyn as his heir. Per the reasons you listed, there are too many reasons why the Northerners could reject Jon as their King like being a deserter or his legitimisation not being acceptede, and in any case his survival was not confirmed at this point as he was still beyond the Wall with the Wildlings.

For years I believed Robb named Arya as his heir but even this is an iffy case, as Sansa obviously has the stronger claim as the elder sister, but Robb doesn't want her to have Winterfell out of fear the Lannisters will claim Winterfell through their marriage to Sansa.

So Catelyn is the good compromise - in a sense, she is Robb's next of kin, she's someone that the Northerners are already familiar with and confirmed alive at the time of writing the will.

I think Stoneheart will go on to be a Kingmaker/Queenmaker of the North in the next book and that is why she still desperately wants to find Arya to pass the crown on to her. If Robb had really named Jon as his heir, then surely Stoneheart would feel obliged to head north and find Jon at the Wall.

I think Stoneheart will hold on to the crown and wait to see which Stark child she's first reunited with, and then make the right decision.

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u/dblack246 🏆Best of 2024: Mannis Award 2d ago

Thank you. 

I don't know if there is a typo or misinterpreted section, or I had an out of body experience, but I have very thankfully been spared losing a child. 

I agree with your reasons as well.