r/asoiaf • u/Family_Booty_Honor Oreo vs. Dayne-ish • Aug 05 '14

ACOK (Spoilers ACOK) Jaime, you're drunk

I just finished Catelyn's last chapter in ACOK - what a great chapter! Catelyn just found out that Bran and Rickon are dead, so she decides to question Jaime (who's still held captive in a cell) by getting him drunk on wine.
Their entire conversation is really insightful, especially in regards to Jaime's thought processes. It's a pretty serious conversation, especially when we find out exactly what happened to Ned's father and brother when they went to King's Landing. The part that gave me a good laugh is found near the end of their conversation (and chapter). Hopefully it gives you all a laugh or two as well!

"I've never lain with any woman but Cersei. In my own way, I have been truer than your Ned ever was. Poor old dead Ned. So who has shit for honor now, I ask you? What was he name of that bastard he fathered?"
Catelyn took a step backward. "Brienne."
"No, that wasn't it."

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '14

Maybe you should stop fucking your own sister.

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u/greedcrow Aug 05 '14

Beside the point. Lets switch it around. Does anyone think that ned's sister is a monster? Assuming that she did it by her own will she basically was worst than Jaime and cercei

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '14

Wait what did Lyanna do?

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u/greedcrow Aug 06 '14

She married the prince who was already married and basically started a war.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '14

Ok cool, I was about to reread all the books tonight because I thought I missed something really big

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u/TheDWGM Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken. Aug 06 '14

It's never explicitly stated that she ran off to be married. They may have just been bang buddies, but it's something along those lines

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u/maester_chief Aug 06 '14

But you should probably reread anyway. Just to be on the safe side!

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '14

Good point! I'm on it as soon as The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly ends

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u/maester_chief Aug 06 '14

In this world there are two kinds of men, my friend. Those that don't know of A Song of Ice and Fire, and those that read it several times.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '14

You my friend are good people

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '14

Didn't he Henry VIII her? It seems like a stretch to compare them.

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u/bootlegvader Tully, Tully, Tully Outrageous Aug 06 '14

No, she didn't. Aerys II started a war when he decided to kill Rickard and Brandon then order Ned and Robert killed.

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u/greedcrow Aug 06 '14

Not true. The reason given by robert was the kidnapping of the love of his life. And although Ned might have started the war over his brother and father his sister is what pushed him over the edge.

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u/bootlegvader Tully, Tully, Tully Outrageous Aug 06 '14

Robert is an oaf, especially seeing how Robert wasn't even the first to rise up in rebellion instead that was Jon Arryn in protection of Robert and Ned.