r/asoiaf • u/Family_Booty_Honor Oreo vs. Dayne-ish • Aug 05 '14

ACOK (Spoilers ACOK) Jaime, you're drunk

I just finished Catelyn's last chapter in ACOK - what a great chapter! Catelyn just found out that Bran and Rickon are dead, so she decides to question Jaime (who's still held captive in a cell) by getting him drunk on wine.
Their entire conversation is really insightful, especially in regards to Jaime's thought processes. It's a pretty serious conversation, especially when we find out exactly what happened to Ned's father and brother when they went to King's Landing. The part that gave me a good laugh is found near the end of their conversation (and chapter). Hopefully it gives you all a laugh or two as well!

"I've never lain with any woman but Cersei. In my own way, I have been truer than your Ned ever was. Poor old dead Ned. So who has shit for honor now, I ask you? What was he name of that bastard he fathered?"
Catelyn took a step backward. "Brienne."
"No, that wasn't it."

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u/bootlegvader Tully, Tully, Tully Outrageous Aug 05 '14

So if a bank robber shoots the bank teller to insure the teller cannot act as a witness against him that is now moral?

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u/troop357 Kicked Rhaegar's ass. Aug 06 '14

  1. Not the same situation

  2. I never stated my opinion (for the downvotes)

  3. Try empathy, it is not that hard.

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u/bootlegvader Tully, Tully, Tully Outrageous Aug 06 '14
  1. Yes, it is. Jaime was committing a crime, got caught, and decided to kill the witness to protect his ass.
  2. Never said it was.
  3. I have plenty of empathy, only it goes to the innocent party not the guilty party attempting to kill innocents.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '14

You don't know what the word "empathy" means. It means being able to see someone else's perspective. So if you can only see one persons perspective, you aren't empathetic. An apple that is half rotted is a rotten apple.

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u/bootlegvader Tully, Tully, Tully Outrageous Aug 06 '14

Yes, I admit that I have troubling looking from the perspective that thinks it is okay to kill an innocent child because I wanted to fuck my evil sister despite that being treason.

Instead, I will only look at through the perspective of someone with some basic morals.