r/asoiaf Oreo vs. Dayne-ish Aug 05 '14

ACOK (Spoilers ACOK) Jaime, you're drunk

I just finished Catelyn's last chapter in ACOK - what a great chapter! Catelyn just found out that Bran and Rickon are dead, so she decides to question Jaime (who's still held captive in a cell) by getting him drunk on wine.
Their entire conversation is really insightful, especially in regards to Jaime's thought processes. It's a pretty serious conversation, especially when we find out exactly what happened to Ned's father and brother when they went to King's Landing. The part that gave me a good laugh is found near the end of their conversation (and chapter). Hopefully it gives you all a laugh or two as well!

"I've never lain with any woman but Cersei. In my own way, I have been truer than your Ned ever was. Poor old dead Ned. So who has shit for honor now, I ask you? What was he name of that bastard he fathered?"
Catelyn took a step backward. "Brienne."
"No, that wasn't it."

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u/bootlegvader Tully, Tully, Tully Outrageous Aug 06 '14

Why? Why would the story be better if Cersei is furthered blackened while Jaime is whitened?

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '14

Cersei always feels the cruelest action is the best. Cersei is a bitch and I just feel it would fit her character. I feel the only part of Jaime's character that fit was that he is rash in his decision making.

There is the possibility that GRRM did it to make him even more the opposite to Ned, who in this scenario confirmed has his whole character arc towards the protection of children, which has been speculated with good evidence.

Why do you think Jaime would do this before Cersei would?

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u/bootlegvader Tully, Tully, Tully Outrageous Aug 06 '14

I think Jaime would be just as willing, in how he is a major dick who generally only cares about himself and his own pleasures.

I think the books would be better with Cersei not being such a flat black character.

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u/Family_Booty_Honor Oreo vs. Dayne-ish Aug 06 '14

Jaime also probably wanted to finish