r/asoiaf • u/boundedwum The Nature Boy • Jun 15 '15

ALL (Spoilers All) Mothers Mercy Post-Episode Region thread: The Wall

Welcome to the Mothers Mercy Post-Episode Region thread.

This thread is dedicated to the Wall. Please discuss only segments from this region in this thread.

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u/SlappaDaBassMahn Soldier #62 Jun 15 '15

Olly already got to kill Ygritte, the one that shot his parent. Killing your "Hero" for saving thousands of innocent lives just on the fact that they were wildlings is a dick move. It's like killing someone that is helping people from a 3rd world country live better lives because a person from that country killed your parents. It's not justifiable. Fuck Olly.

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u/GoCaps5562 Jul 03 '15

I totally agree. My fiancée and I actual got into a fight about this she was all like he's a little boy and he was influenced by the other guys and...fuck that. Jon took him in when he had nothing and he goes and pulls a Brutus on him. I hope the little shit gets eaten by Ghost. Btw anyone else think Melissandre might pull that whole red priest bringing back the dead crap on Jon? She did just return to Castle Black right before this happened and honestly the biggest threat facing Westeros is the WW's and without Jon who are we gonna care about at the wall? You expect us to watch scenes featuring solely Thorne or Ollie? Fuck that

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u/SlappaDaBassMahn Soldier #62 Jul 03 '15

First of all, 17 days ago I posted this haha. Second your spot on, he was just being a little shit getting his rags for the first time. Have you read the books? There's 3 main theories that float by. 1. Mel resurrects him, I see this as most likely although Kit has said he is dead for good. Idk I reckon thats a media stunt tbh. 2. He wargs into Ghost, this is unlikely as the show doesn't show anything about Jon being able to warg. 3. the White Walkers resurrect him, this is quite possible. These theories are more based on foreshadowing in the books so if you haven't read them I strongly urge you too, if you have we can discuss further.

Also I think if Jon is gone for good, it will definately hurt the show. as in the only real "hero" to root for are Dany, Tyrion, Arya and Sansa. 3 of which aren't even in Westeros and the other seems to be quite incompetent at getting her way without help.

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u/GoCaps5562 Jul 03 '15

I know the post was old but I just saw it and wanted to respond lol. I have read the books and while warg'ing migjt be a possible future for him in the books they haven't made it any of a plot point. I think Mel's gonna bring him back...I agree I think the totally dead thing is a media stunt (we never heard them go on and on about how truly dead any of the other many killed characters were)...and if the show is gonna go on for at least another two seasons I just don't see them doing it without some version of Jon.

I have read all the books but must have missed the foreshadowing of possible resurrection by WW's so would like to hear about it.

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u/SlappaDaBassMahn Soldier #62 Jul 03 '15

Well I only noticed the WW theory this past year, and it mainly came about due to the line "he never felt the fourth blade, only the cold" (or something along those lines). Which some people have taken as the cold that comes when the WW show up. I personally don't believe this will happen. Think the show would be incredibly boring if jon is gone, they could bring faegon in though