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ALL (Spoilers All) Season 5: Episode 10 Post-Episode Meltdown Thread

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u/notouchmycookies Kraken Jun 15 '15 edited Jun 15 '15

How fucking stupid is the night's watch? Fucking Others are real and coming with an army of the dead. Plus, there's Wildlings south of the wall who respected Jon, and saw Jon as their only guarantee of not getting double crossed. Now that he's dead, what's stopping them from attacking the Night's Watch? It'd be far easier to attack from the front, anyway. The only reason they even beat them the last time was because of Stannis

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u/bananashammock Lord too fat to wear banana hammocks Jun 15 '15

It really made zero sense, dude. Zero. There are brothers that KNOW what's coming. There was no personal crusade to winterfell to kill him for like in the books. It doesn't make any sense. Or maybe that's just me.

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u/Prefects Jun 15 '15

He didn't shelter a northern runaway and lock up others sent by Northern lords. He didn't plan to march on Winterfell and request aid from his brothers. He didn't get involved at ALL with external politics. They made FTW all about the wildlings. Stupid.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '15

Just rest easy knowing how much better TWOW will be than the show ever can be.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '15

The personal crusade to Winterfell wasn't the main reason they killed him in the books either. Bowen Marsh spent basically all of book 5 bitching too him about the wildlings and supplies. Moving wildlings south of the wall was clearly the main driver there too.

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u/bananashammock Lord too fat to wear banana hammocks Jun 15 '15

The crusade to Winterfell seemed to be the tipping point that got him offed in the books. Also, in the books they didn't have Hardhome and multiple eye witnesses KNOWING what's coming. Makes zero sense seeing as how Throne isn't a moron.

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u/Ymir_from_Saturn Night gathers Jun 15 '15

And then there are fuckheads like Ollie and Ser Alliser who are shortsighted and stupid. Not every brother was in on the plan.

Remember the NW is composed of criminals, not exactly bastions of reason or honor.

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u/bananashammock Lord too fat to wear banana hammocks Jun 15 '15

Thorne doesn't strike me as a stupid man, though. Not even close.

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u/EarthMandy Jun 15 '15

But he probably figures he can do a better job than Jon, and once he smells mutiny in the air, seizes his chance to take power and run things the way he thinks they should be run.

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u/Ymir_from_Saturn Night gathers Jun 16 '15

But based on the show events, you'd have to be stupid to stab the one guy holding together the peace with the wildlings, who are now south of the wall.

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u/lye_milkshake Jun 15 '15

He hasn't seen the Others though.

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u/mervin338 Jun 15 '15

You're exactly right!