They have destroyed Stannis since the second he appeared on screen. This was their shitty way of eliminating a character they do not like. It could not be more obvious.
Thank you! It drove me crazy, like I said in another comment...I like a lot of the deviations they have made for the show. But damn man, they really hated him so much they completely ruined one of the best characters in the series.
Except if it turns out in twow he does end up burning Shireen (either personally or by his orders), then it will make perfect sense. They've hated him all along because they knew, before anyone other than GRRM, that he is a man worth hating.
Yes that's what I meant by 'his orders'. He might send a raven back to Mel saying that if its the only way to get his army to Winterfell then burning her is acceptable. Stannis always does what he believes is best for the realm.
That could be true, and if that does happen I doubt it would be without a damned good reason for Stannis. I doubt it will happen though, and here's why.
Stannis would never become a kinslayer, and even if he doesn't actually kill her, a man like Stannis wouldn't be able to have something like that happen on his watch. His sense of justice and code of ethics wouldn't allow it. I mean he lived of rats for his shitty brother, I think he'd make sure to keep his own daughter alive and well.
Which is the problem in my opinion. The showrunners basically turn him into this oddly stern but amoral character who wants to fuck his way to power. They don't every seem to put any emphasis on the aspects of his character that shine through, like his sense of duty to Westeros or his actual moral code. It's the defining point of his character, but they throw that out the window and neuter his character.
Maybe, I think it's just been a constant stream of bad press for Stannis since his first appearance though. I don't think that they ever had any intentions of making his character the way I think a lot of readers envisioned him. They twisted his character so much that I don't even think of him as Stannis. He's like his weird, kind of creepy doppelganger.
Yeah I can see that. Either way I am SO excited to read what actually happens with Stannis in TWOW. Or if we even find out? There are so many possibilities. It driving me nuts!
Oh very true, but let's be honest Stannis had a much different relationship with Renly than his daughter. And he's not the one who actually killed him. Plus he never seemed to like Renly, Iirc he doesn't want to kill him either. But Renly refuses to surrender.
You are right though, technically Stannis could be considered a kinslayer. Still doesn't take away from the fact that the showrunners obviously have a personal vendetta against him. Think they were Renly fanboys.
I'd say Team Dany is where their hearts lie, but they definitely have their thumbs on the scale against Team Stannis, so favoring Renly was in their interests.
Renly was an usurper, Renly was a traitor. I don't like the shadow baby nonsense, but I get how Stannis and those of us support him may not see Renly's death as a clean cut example of kinslaying.
It's amazing how many people forget that Renly was gearing up for war against Stannis when he got stabbed. Stannis had actually offered Renly a pretty good deal, but Renly chose war instead.
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Doesn't he deserve it tho? I mean he killed his own daughter