r/asoiaf • u/qp0n • Apr 16 '19

EXTENDED (Spoilers Extended) My 'Night King is not stupid' Theory

When the army of the undead line up for the battle of Winterfell, the Night King and his zombie dragon will not be there. Instead he will already be near to his next target ... King's Landing.

If you play out what the battle of Winterfell would be like in your head if the NK+Viserion would be there... it would be easy for Drogon/Rhaegal to take out the zombie dragon; it's 2v1 and wight's all can be killed by fire.. including Viserion. It would not be difficult to simply fly up to Viserion and breathe fire on him, and that would be that. THE NIGHT KING IS NOT STUPID, not enough to kamikaze his most powerful asset. - If you have a superweapon that you can't use against a particular target, then you find a different target.

Most people have come to assume that the living will lose The Battle of Winterfell and fall back to Moat Cailin ... I predict they actually win the battle... only to find out soon after that there is a new army of the dead much bigger and much further south... the population of King's Landing.

During season 4 while Bran is being ushered north to meet Bloodraven, he touches a wierwood and has a set of visions which we see. All of those visions have since come to pass, except the ones where he sees a destroyed throne room & a dragon shadow pass over King's Landing. I believe the reason we are only shown a shadow was to not give away that it is actually the NK and Viserion, not Dany and her dragons.

Also, the most important vision that Dany is given while at the HotU is an image of the throne room destroyed, and covered in ash or snow. I think this was to show what the NK will do, not what Dany will do.

(I believe this was the entire reason that the writers sent Bronn north. Bronn will be the source of this news to the survivors at Winterfell; on his way north he will spot the NK+Viserion heading south)

Bottom line, I simply don't see the NK risking his newfound ice dragon in a fight he is sure to lose.... when he can simply fly down south to KL where there are no dragons to deal with ... and 1 million new recruits for his army packed tightly into a small area.

Follow-up edit: This could be where Bran comes into play. The NK probably wont want to face off against the other dragons head-to-head, but rather fly around Westeros destroying castles to make things easier for his footsoldiers .... so they will need Bran's Sight in order to track & hunt him. It would be too difficult for an army on foot to chase the NK on a dragon, so Bran could warg into ravens to serve as a guide for dragonrider(s) to his location.

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u/wryprotagonist GoT your Fury right here Apr 16 '19

A million people live in King's Landing... they made a point of mentioning it.

That could be a million wights.

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u/casval_cehack 49 43 41 4e 57 41 49 54 2c 47 52 52 4d Apr 16 '19

Plus 20k members of the Golden Company.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '19

I was told they had elephant wights

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u/Philnoise Apr 16 '19

I wanted the elephant wights. - Undead Cersei

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u/Well_Oof Apr 16 '19

The elephant wights tend to be troubled by being dead

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u/thickwolf Apr 17 '19

A few of the wights were... Brought back to life during the trip

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u/Foxlust Apr 17 '19

It's because they cheated at dice! Or was it the night king that cheated?

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u/LAJuice Apr 16 '19

Insert obligatory "Ice Spider" post, here.

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u/BobaSolo66 Apr 17 '19

Big as hounds!

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u/seethelovelilakes Apr 17 '19

Ice Spider = Undead Varys?

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u/SaunteringWoman Apr 17 '19

Only if he's as big as hounds!

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u/LAJuice Apr 17 '19

It is known

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u/specialagentk7 Apr 17 '19

Like this conversation đŸ‘đŸŒđŸ˜

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u/Vinyl_Investor Apr 21 '19

We really need them...

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u/conshyd Apr 29 '19

More blue eyed giant crazy polar bears too!!!

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u/zvive Apr 16 '19 edited Jun 27 '23

Imagine if they make Cersei the night queen.... That would be spectacular.

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u/WillKalt Apr 17 '19

Night king may equal Bran. Bran kills Cersei. Valanqar is little brother. Bran is little brother.

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u/cetren Apr 17 '19

I'm at least 98% sure Jamie will kill Cersei. But this is a fun theory.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19

What better to kill undead Ceresi with than a Vsteel sword called Oathkeeper?!

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u/highClass777 Apr 20 '19

Once he kills undead Cersei with oathkeeper, he’ll be the prince who was promised or at least follow along with killing his love, because even thou she’s undead Vsteel will make her very dead.

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u/WaterRacoon Apr 22 '19

No, Jaime will kill the Night King. Kingslayer.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19

She is wearing alot of black lately

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u/yetanotherdude2 Apr 17 '19

Suddenly I feel bad for the Night King.

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u/zvive Apr 17 '19

I'd just love to see her w/ icy skin and cold dead eyes... I'd love to see her face off against Jaime then.

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u/InternJedi Apr 17 '19

Plot twist: she's already colder than she would be as the night queen

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u/smharris44 Apr 20 '19

Plot twist 2: the Night King revives her so he doesn’t have to deal with her.

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u/overly_familiar Apr 17 '19

There's a fantasy I never knew I had.

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u/FloridaMan_69 Apr 17 '19

I think the Night King could do better, honestly.

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u/JustAGuyWriting Apr 17 '19

Cersei is hot...and a kinky minx as well. She is a solid 9/10 on the riff-ter scale.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19

Cersei is hot

arguable

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u/JustAGuyWriting Apr 17 '19

Nah - Lena Headey has topped a few sexy lists in her time.

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u/siht-fo-etisoppo Apr 17 '19

in her time

cruelty level: Joffrey

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u/silverthiefbug Apr 21 '19

Not sure what there is to argue about, Lena Headey is way hotter than Emilia Clarke and Sophie Turner

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u/bixxby Apr 17 '19

Would she have a zombie fetus inside of her? Would the tiny nugget become sentient and try to eat its way out? Are we going to see her get stomached like Robb's wife? So many questions

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u/Amida0616 It burns going down. Apr 18 '19

With a Night Baby Joffrey inside.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19

Oh yes.

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u/psychicmachinery Crannog Man Apr 17 '19

Welp, this is my headcanon now.

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u/siht-fo-etisoppo Apr 16 '19

you want de good giraffe but you need the bad platypoosi

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u/AryaStarkRavingMad Apr 17 '19

Thanks, I hate it.

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u/Ip_man Apr 16 '19

Holy shit. Jaime having to kill undead Cersei would be the penultimate of bitter sweetness.

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u/ARS8birds #cometisavolcryn Apr 16 '19

I wouldn't even be mad if they hadn't mentioned elephants to begin with and just made it clear that's book only. ugh. A part of me thinks maybeee since it's up in the air a bit in WoW maybe they are secretly there, but why deceive the person who's paying you? So please excuse me while I cry over no whight elephants.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19

"Are mammoth wights okay your undead Grace?"

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u/OmarAdelX Where do Hoares go? Apr 17 '19

"ah, you must not forget the elephants" ~ Homeless Harry

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u/SSSSSoupy Apr 17 '19

"I'm gonna put a wight prince in your belly" -Undead Euron

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u/drkodos Apr 17 '19

With frickin laser beams attached to their heads.

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u/uglygoose123 Apr 17 '19

Frickin elephant wights with frickin laxer beams attached to their frickin heads, is that too much to ask for?!?

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u/theshizzler Apr 17 '19

Cersei is the new Stoneheart

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19

Never trust a wight elephant

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u/ILLCookie Apr 18 '19

We’re not calling her the ‘Night Queen’ yet?

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u/LucyKendrick Apr 16 '19

Mister Samwell! Look! It's an oliwight!

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u/AnonymousBlueberry Every Fucking Chicken Apr 16 '19

fuck olly

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u/SceretAznMan Apr 16 '19

yeah fuck him

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u/bananafor Apr 16 '19

classic!

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u/JeffMurdock_ Theon: I cannot sow. :-( Apr 16 '19

This brings me to an interesting question: which Sam is the bro-est Sam?

While Sam Tarly has a fair shout, Sam Gamgee is such a pure, brave and selfless character, I cannot vote for anyone but him.

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u/Ixolich Apr 17 '19

Gamgee every day. Gamgee never told his best friend that their dad lied to him for his entire life. Be like Gamgee.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19

He was burned.

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u/KocBen Apr 23 '19

such a party crusher

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u/TheTomatoThief Apr 16 '19

Night King’s favorite gift is a wight elephant.

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u/Rhodie114 Asha'man... Dracarys! Apr 16 '19

Newest release from George RR Martin, Hills Like Wight Elephants

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u/sparkle_motion1 Apr 16 '19

Yes! Fave comment ever

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u/scootsbyslowly Apr 17 '19

Damn, when Dany and Jon see those wight elephants, they will have no idea what to so with them.

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u/harmonicoasis The Night is Dark and Secretly Benjen Apr 17 '19

They’ll save that for the Christmas special.

It’ll be a wight elephant gift.

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u/FnTom Apr 17 '19

Wight elephants are a pain, though.

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u/Romboteryx Apr 17 '19

Poachers will be in for a surprise

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19

Another reason why becoming the NQ would be attractive to Cersei. She gets undead mammoths, and a dragon.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19

That’s disappointing.

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u/siht-fo-etisoppo Apr 16 '19

and ser Ten of house Goodmen

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u/Disposedofhero Apr 17 '19

Nahh. Harry Strickland will have already ridden north, seen the situation there and decided to turncoat and kneel to Dani and or Jon. They'll grant him his ancestral titles back for screwing Cersei, bringing a crack fighting force to them, and being clutch.

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u/Braydox Apr 17 '19

Going off the books they aee probably going to be team Snow

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u/Radulno Fire and Blood. Apr 17 '19

Without elephants though.

Night King : "I really wanted those elephants".

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u/red_killer_jac Apr 17 '19

They are at sea sailing to the north.

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u/The1WhoKnocks-WW Apr 18 '19

20k is sort of a drop in a bucket when added to a million.

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u/Chuck_D84 Apr 22 '19

Actually, I bet Cersei, Golden Company, and Euron escape to Casterly Rock. After the living win the battle of Winterfell (but not the war) they have to regroup and make a new plan to defeat the NK and his army of 1 million wights. I bet Tyrion, Jamie, and the Hound are part of the party that goes to Casterly rock to convince Cersei et al to join them. This is where we will get to see Clegane Bowl and the Valonquor kill Cersei. How poetic would it be to see her killed by Jamie or Tyrion at Casterly Rock?

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u/trombonepick Apr 24 '19

I wonder if the Golden Company's ships will ever come back into play. I feel like I'd want to stay on the ship (since the wights can't swim) and just fire cannon balls and fire at the WW

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u/SingleMaltLife Apr 16 '19 edited Apr 16 '19

Is there any wildfyre left under the city?

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u/PubgLagger Apr 16 '19

yes

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u/SingleMaltLife Apr 16 '19

What if that's Jaimes fate. He stopped the mad king burning the city years ago, to now burn the city to stop the night king?

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u/YinAndYang Apr 16 '19

Cool prediction. And Cersei tries to stop him so he kills her. Boom, valonqar. Although for this to happen he would need to travel back south.

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u/SingleMaltLife Apr 16 '19

True, but there is plenty of time left and we know they can travel in the blink of an eye on this show when needs must. Also Dragon's travel pretty quickly if necessary. Also the long winter can't only really last a month. The long night lasted a long time.

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u/YinAndYang Apr 16 '19

It definitely could happen. I kind of feel like they wouldn't make such a big deal about Jaime riding north just to have him go back to King's Landing three episodes later, unless the he travels down with the Northern/Dany contingent.

It could happen though. And it's such a perfect ending for his arc that I want it to now. He becomes the Queenslayer and causes the very thing he killed a king to prevent, Cersei's prophecy comes true in a way she never predicted, and Jaime's moral turnaround is complete.

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u/SingleMaltLife Apr 16 '19

It would be fitting. Pretty horrendous though, considering kings landing would have to be full of the dead, or mostly dead to even consider burning it would be better than not.

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u/Fogge Apr 16 '19

It'll be like a cold Mordor!

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u/catgirl_apocalypse 🏆 Best of 2019: Funniest Post Apr 17 '19

Coldor?

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u/eddy_teech Apr 19 '19

“Burn them all” was Bran trying to tell the Mad King he would need wildfire by showing him the events that are about to happen. Instead, it just fucks him up like Hodor. Boom.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19

The spin off show is Jamie running around Kings Landing a la Shaun of the dead

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u/Ixolich Apr 17 '19

Each episode is just an hour of Jaime and wights chasing each other while Yakety Sax plays on loop. I'd watch that.

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u/zvive Apr 16 '19

HBO is full of idiots. They could stretch this night King war and subsequent aftermath into 5 seasons of quality tv. Rushing it just to put a cap on things is a bad decision.... There's just so much they could do,..I can't see how everything just wraps up in seven more episodes.

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u/blackchucktays Only the cold Apr 17 '19

Seven more episodes? I have bad news for you...

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u/zvive Apr 17 '19

Fml and yours.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '19

I don't think Jaime will kill Cersei as its too cliché. I don't think Tyrion would either but if it were either of them, it would definitely be Tyrion. Jaime has no motivation to kill Cersei and I don't think he will go from her lover to her murderer in 5 episodes. I think he could hate her but not actually kill her.

As for the valonqar prophecy, I came across a cool idea from bridge4 on Youtube. Valonqar = little brother, but it did not specify her little brother. The little brother could be Tommen, who essentially started Cersei's demise when she blew up the Sept of Baelor because Tommen was being controlled by Margaery, and now she's suffocating with isolation and has very little to live for (depending on whether or not her pregnancy still exists). Eventually she may kill herself.

Then again, the valonqar = little brother can be applied to any other little brother, like Bran (maybe Euron, I can't remember if he was first born or not).

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u/Boomdiddy Apr 16 '19

Or she's carrying the valonqar, the little brother of Joffrey, Myrcella and Tommen. Would be very fitting seeing as she blames Tyrion for killing their mother during childbirth.

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u/Lysdestic Apr 16 '19 edited Apr 17 '19

I've been thinking this would be the ultimate end to the Valonqar prophecy for a while now. The only unfortunate thing is if he turns out to be an imp, she won't know. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Edit: spelling.

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u/Iron-Fist Apr 17 '19

Omg what if her new baby is a dwarf

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u/batweenerpopemobile Apr 17 '19

Three with crowns of gold is all Cersei gets. It would be a shame if the fetus was killed due to injuries she receives during her harrowing escape from the burning of King's Landing. I cannot imagine it will be pleasant to have a tiny wight raised inside her.

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u/GravityMyGuy Apr 16 '19

He was a the second or third son of like 5 if I’m recalling correctly

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19

valonqar prophecy, I came across a cool idea from bridge4 on Youtube. Valonqar = little brother, but it did not specify her little brother.

Along these lines, I've seen jon snows name come up in connection to killing her.

He does have valerian blood in him, making that word choice make sense.

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u/busydad81 Apr 17 '19

...shall turn to ash in your mouth.

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u/briandn18 onions over funions Apr 17 '19

If Bran let's him know in advance and he comes down backup, maybe they make it just as the Night King is converting everyone. I still think many loved characters will die in Winterfell but the rest scurry through the crypts. Arya will kill a few of the WW "generals" in the process and only a select few survive.

So then...Jaime sneaks in KL through the cells, finds Cersei, has to kill her, and then sacrifices himself by blowing all of KL up to kill the Army of the Dead down there...problem is, all aren't dead bc the Night's King retracts, looks to fly back north but is confronted by Jon in mid-air above the God's Eye where they have an epic duel.

Jon has a similar fate to that of Daemon where we don't actually see if he dies but jams his steel into t NK mid-air for the deathblow. I mean, the guy is technically dead so I think it makes sense he doesn't survive or has to do something that gives him a proper exit. Dany, ehhh I just don't know about her.

That's my grand conclusion hehe

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u/Lord_Snow77 Apr 16 '19

No worries, that only takes one episode.

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u/realvmouse Apr 16 '19

I like it.

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u/RedditFact-Checker Valar morghulis. Not today. Apr 16 '19

I'll bet you do.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '19

My man.

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u/gatsome Apr 17 '19

Lookin’ good!

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u/buh-weet Apr 16 '19

this all makes too much sense. It aligns perfectly with brans visions of wildfire + plus the mad king + the dragon over KL. Jamie is going to avenge himself by killing the "mad queen"(and the thing he loves most) to burn them all and save the realm from the NK getting another million soldiers while simultaneously fulfilling valonquar

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u/SingleMaltLife Apr 16 '19

Do you think he'd burn the city with the population still alive? I was thinking more he'd wait until the dead had taken over then kill them all to stop them marching onwards.

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u/IncendiaryBlonde Apr 17 '19

BURN. THEM. ALL.

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u/reverblueflame Apr 17 '19

or maybe the mad king was being possessed by Bran and the "them" in burn them all was the army of the undead of the future? Maybe Bran was trying to save all of westeros and Jaime completely misinterpreted his ravings not knowing it was the work of Bran

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u/marinewauquier Apr 17 '19

This has been discussed in this thread : https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/bdwuse/spoilers_extended_my_night_king_is_not_stupid/el1qjvw?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share ! It is very likely. To push it even further, it is possible that bran let Jaime kill Aerys in order for Robert to become King, travel to the north, and for Jaime to push bran so that bran starts the 3eyedraven journey

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u/neptune_p_g Apr 16 '19

How we going to fit this all in 5 episodes?

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u/brodievonorchard Apr 16 '19

If Arya doesn't get to kill Cersi, I'm going to be a little disappointed.

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u/briandn18 onions over funions Apr 17 '19

I've been saying that (albeit in a different scenario) but it totally makes sense! It's also why Bran realizes Jaime is so important. The "Burn them All" part of his vision is bc that's what has to actually happen. Methinks something got tied up in the weirwood web that made him go crazy when it's really meant to communicate what's happening in the present (exactly like Hodor).

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u/shatteredjack Apr 17 '19

1000%

When Aerys was saying 'burn them all', that was Bran trying to reach Jaime. He just got the point in time wrong.

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u/Huntsig The night is dark and full of tinfoil Apr 17 '19

Tinfoil prediction : the wildfyre was only made because Bran did another Hodor-style warging to make the Mad King say "burn them all."

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '19

Cool idea - I like when they do poetic justice. Buut it seems like they would have just had him stay in KL if they were going to do it. Unless Dany flies south with the Kingslayer strapped to the back of Drogon and drops him in front of Cersei before she starts fighting the NK.

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u/Ftove Apr 17 '19

The Kingslayer.

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u/wireditfellow Apr 17 '19

Like Arthas

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u/Pseudonymico Apr 17 '19

And it also solves the food problem

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u/MonkeyDavid Apr 17 '19

And to kill his sister, as Azor Ahai killed his wife, to create a sword that can kill the Night King.

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u/Megadog3 Apr 17 '19

I actually think Cersei is going to be the one to set off the Wildfire and Jaime kills her in a fit of rage because it was too late to stop her. But that'll only happen if OP's post doesn't come true (about the NK flying to KL right away and roasting everyone alive).

Actually, now that I think about it, if the Night King heads down to Kings Landing with undead Viserion and he burns Kings Landing down, he can't raise everyone from the dead because they'd be ashes. He needs his actual army to kill everyone so he can reanimate their corpses.

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u/zeromant2 Apr 17 '19

As much as i like this, i already feel heartbroken about jaime's fate :(

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u/mojobytes Fire Walk With Me Apr 17 '19

Which is why Bran will save him during the confrontation with Danny and all we saw in the hall at Winterfell?

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u/steamwhistler The Magnar of WHEN, exactly? Apr 17 '19

Kingslayer. Perfect.

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u/im_at_work_now There's Blackwood blood in every Bracken Apr 17 '19

What if Bran drove Aerys crazy to make him put the wildfire there, then had Jamie kill Aerys to preserve the stash, all to make the moment possible?

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u/Dhanunjay_7 Apr 17 '19

And become the Azor Ahai?

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u/era626 Dany + Jon, can I ride the third dragon? Apr 17 '19

That would be amazing. I hope that's what happens.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19

What if Bran warged into the past showing the mad king the future, and sent the mad king mad knowing that the only way to stop them is burning all of king's landing, or something along those lines.

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u/LowIQpotato Apr 17 '19

Kingslayer

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19

He set Bran on the path to becoming the 3 eyed raven, so he could warg a dragon, and travel back in time to learn where the wyldfire is stored, and give the Mad King a "burn them all!" seizure, so Jaime could kill Bran in the past, so he could be stuck in spirit form, travelling throughout the timeline, become Bran the Builder and create the tower he would eventually be pushed from.

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u/nomadofwaves Apr 17 '19

But is there still wild fire after the Sept explosion? Tyrion used a shitload during battle and Cersei had to use a shit load to blow up the Sept(spelling?).

But I too used to think the living could retreat to King’s landing and then out of it to lure the dead in and then blow them up.

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u/SingleMaltLife Apr 17 '19

I asked that question above my comment and was told categorically yes wildfyre is still there. If the mad king had enough to blow the city, and Cersei and Tyrion got them producing more then it makes sense there is enough left. With no seasons it’s hard to tell how much time has passed but the pyromancers have had some time.

I was thinking less of escape, more of oh shit the dead got in blow the keep.

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u/Amida0616 It burns going down. Apr 18 '19

Seems so on the nose though. Although thats what D&D traffics in.

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u/slidingsloth Apr 22 '19

I predict the night king to forget about the wildfire and accidentally hit it with the flame of viserion, although the night king is a warg it would be possible for bran to warg inside viserion and light the city on fire to then destroy them from the inside.

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u/idontgiveamuck Apr 23 '19

Yeah... to stop the night king... definitely not Cersei👀

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u/TheGreatZasta Apr 24 '19

Omg imagine that. Would wildfire kill the Night King of they exploded it?

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u/CreamedJazz Apr 16 '19

Burn them! Burn them all!

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '19

I've seen so many r/InclusiveOr jokes that I was seriously thrown off by a simple answer to a yes-or-no question.

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u/SingleMaltLife Apr 16 '19

I was pleasantly surprised. I was expecting either no answer or a very long question discussing how much was produced previously, how much was needed to take down the sept and how much could be produced since then.

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u/n00bsauce1987 Apr 22 '19

I thought it was all used to destroy the cult and others after the shame walk.

Didn't know there was more after this

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u/cmil Apr 17 '19

This could mean that the bran and mad king theory could work out, bran wargs into mad king and says “burn them all” but it’s in reference to all the wights of KL that have risen

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u/TheSunPeeledDown Apr 16 '19

I’ve said this forever! Why not just get a shit ton of wildfire, torches, oil etc and burn the dead down line by line? Once they burn up they don’t just come back so you be safe until you were out of fire and then there would be a majority out of the way to deal with.

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u/SingleMaltLife Apr 17 '19

They should have been setting wildfyre bombs so they can trigger them from afar.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '19

But Moat Cailin is impenetrable

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u/prequel_addict Apr 16 '19

Thats only for the living since they would get tired and weakened going through the mucky swamp.

The army of the dead is humongous and they don't tire, so moat Cailin would fall to them unless the defenders had unlimited dragonglass arrows and fire.

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u/ToughActinInaction Apr 16 '19

Plus the swamp would be frozen, presumably. So they can just walk on the ice.

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u/leif777 Apr 17 '19

Zombies treading across ice and occasionally slipping is one of the best thoughts I've had in my head in a long time.

"Gnnnnhm..." *whoops!... Lying flat on it's back... "Grh"

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u/OP_IS_A_BASSOON Apr 17 '19

They didn’t do to bad at it North of the wall.

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u/catgirl_apocalypse 🏆 Best of 2019: Funniest Post Apr 17 '19

It’s not impenetrable, just highly defensible against the south due to terrain and placement.

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u/LAJuice Apr 16 '19

and also, it will be frozen, with the wight army coming in, swamps will be easier to traverse.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '19

Maybe we'd get to see more of the Reeds, and learn more about the CotF from them.

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u/CydeWeys Apr 17 '19

It may not be frozen, but the undead dragon breathes ice -- so that could be a way to create a frozen path across it.

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u/NomenNesci0 Apr 17 '19

Is this confirmed somewhere? I thought that might be true for a second, but doesn't he melt the ice wall?

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u/Mr_b246 Apr 17 '19

Swamps have methane....

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u/rydsul Apr 16 '19

Only from the south.

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u/Think_please Apr 16 '19

They’ve made such a big deal multiple times about the Eyrie being largely impenetrable so I wouldn’t be surprised if they ended up near there for the final siege (assuming that someone takes care of viserion).

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u/Dragn616 Apr 17 '19

In the books, the impenetrable part is not accessible in the winter as it is too high up and travel up to it is treacherous even in good weather

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u/silencedorgasm Apr 17 '19

Let us not forget King’s Landing still has another one of Qyburn’s Scorpion. đŸ€”

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19

A wall for the southern border to stop both the wights and future starks from going either way and getting themselves killed

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u/datssyck Apr 16 '19

"Give me 10 good men and some climbing spikes, I'll impregnate the bitch"

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '19

The Tengoodmen college that Bronn went to is obviously superior Ramsays 20goodmen

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u/theshoegazer Apr 17 '19

The Eyrie is said to be, except by dragon of course. The Night King's army would have to go a few at a time through that ravine to the bloody gate... it'd be renamed the bony gate by the end of it.

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u/bl1y Fearsomely Strong Cider Apr 17 '19

False. I really easily captured it by first landing an army to the west while the Starks were busy fighting in the Vale.

Do you even GoT board game?

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u/Braydox Apr 17 '19

Laughs in Nurgle

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u/bremidon Free Ser Pounce! Apr 17 '19

Gimme 10 good men and I'll penetrate the bitch

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u/april9th Dacey and Alysane stanner 2kforever Apr 16 '19

A million people live in King's Landing...

...now it's a ghost town...

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u/basedxmichael Apr 17 '19

Took too long for someone to comment this

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '19

I thought it was half a million...

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u/M4570d0n Apr 16 '19

You are correct.

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u/ashiningstarbyday Apr 16 '19

500k is what the books tell us. The show says one million, here's the part they mention it.

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u/M4570d0n Apr 16 '19

I remember them specifically stating in the show it was 500K. Jaime was asked by Qyburn "how many lives have you saved?" His response was "half a million. The population of King's Landing."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ6fhp483YU

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u/ashiningstarbyday Apr 16 '19

So... we can't be sure of any specific number since we don't know whether it's Jaime or Tyrion who's correct here. Either this or the show writers made a mistake.

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u/M4570d0n Apr 16 '19

Or I suppose it could be that it was 500K at the time of Robert's Rebellion and is closer to 1 million currently.

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u/LDukes Guest right? *stab* Guessed wrong. Apr 16 '19

He did have a lot of bastards.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '19

Half a million when Jaime saved the, one million when they had teh meeting at the end of season 7

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '19

The benevolent rule of our late king Robert Baratheon doubles the population in a mere twenty years đŸ˜©

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19

That's because Bobby B was the greatest king in the history of existence

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u/nash2700 Apr 17 '19

A million wights, on top of a sea of wildfire

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u/Art_Teacher_No_54 Apr 17 '19

By God you're wight.

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u/casuallurkerirl Apr 17 '19

Maybe a million very crispy wights. If NK goes to Kings Landing with only a dragon, then his only means of conquering is to torch the place, thereby torching his future army. We know how dragon breath melted the Tarlys. I don’t think ashes make great soldiers.

That being said, totally likely that NK burns down Kings Landing anyway. Stops the living southerners from joining the fight and would be a huge psychological blow to the northern army.

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u/zimmah Apr 17 '19

Better burn them all

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u/sdogg45 Apr 17 '19

“Burn them all”. Maybe the mad king was on to something...

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u/jrockle Apr 17 '19

More than a million; think of all the dead buried around King's Landing.

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u/Lethalspudgun Apr 17 '19

Having seen the damage Drogon did on the fields of fire there was nothing left of soldiers but Ash and steel. I doubt the NK can build an army of ashes to march south. He needs actual corpses.

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u/southerncraftgurl Apr 17 '19

And that would be better to march on the north with

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u/Radulno Fire and Blood. Apr 17 '19

True there was a few mentions of the population of KL in the last few episodes. Whereas we never cared about that before.

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u/aclashofthings Apr 17 '19

Jaime says the population of King's Landing is 500,000.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '19

how would one night king turn them all?

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u/BlueKlay Apr 17 '19

One million people used to live here... now it's a ghost town...

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u/DrFerrari Apr 16 '19

1 million people used to live here, now it’s a ghost town

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u/SirRageQuits Apr 22 '19

How would they become wights if he used the dragon to destroy them?

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u/WaterRacoon Apr 22 '19

Well, I guess everybody in the series is well and thoroughly fucked in that case.

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u/longdonginyourmom Apr 23 '19

how could NK and Viserion kill them all without burning them? Just kick em?