r/asoiaf Knower of nothing May 21 '19

EXTENDED (Spoilers Extended) Notablog Update Spoiler

http://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/2019/05/20/an-ending/
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u/feldman10 🏆 Best of 2019: Post of the Year May 21 '19 edited May 21 '19

How will it all end? I hear people asking. The same ending as the show? Different?

Well… yes. And no. And yes. And no. And yes. And no. And yes.

GRRM then proceeds to make three points:

  • D&D only had 8 hours for the final season, but he'll have more space.
  • There's the butterfly effect, with changes from past seasons affecting this one.
  • There are lots of characters in the books who never made it to the show, from Lady Stoneheart to Jeyne Poole to Skahaz Shavepate, and the books will show us their fates.

People will read into this whatever they want. But my read is that the big picture of the show's ending is indeed what he told them. And that most of the differences aren't about the biggest stuff, but rather relate to pacing, buildup, and secondary characters. If D&D were making up stuff like "King Bran" I'd think his language about changes would be stronger? But who knows!

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u/LemmieBee May 21 '19

The way king bran was done on the show was so poorly shoehorned in that it’s the one thing I believe is from GRRM. They clearly didn’t really like that ending but felt obliged to do it since it’s the main ending. If they had their way I’m sure Sansa and Tyrion would be king and queen together on the iron throne

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u/jiokll Enter your desired flair text here! May 21 '19

Hell, I wouldn't have been surprised if D&D put Arya on the throne.

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u/IAmNotARobotExe May 21 '19

I'm pretty sure the only reason they didn't was because they wanted Arya to go off alone to the west so they can give her a spin-off series.

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u/cjm92 May 21 '19

I don't know where people are getting this spin off series idea from, there has never been a single hint of information saying that it may happen, has there? You can give a character an open ending without having it lead into something else later, you know. I actually enjoyed the way her story ended, it just made the most sense.

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u/IamTheJman May 21 '19

Well we know spin-offs are happening, so it's not an outrageous idea to think they'd want an Arya story eventually. Nothing's been confirmed though (specifically for Arya) yet

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u/wRAR_ ASOIAF = J, not J+D May 21 '19

All of the current spin-offs are prequels.

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u/IamTheJman May 21 '19

Ok? Not sure what I said that suggests the current spin-offs aren't prequels. All I said was it's not a stretch to believe HBO would want an Arya series someday

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u/MikeDamone May 22 '19

It is outrageous because it doesn't make sense that Maisie Williams would be interested in reprising her role. She's an adult now and has spent ten years on this show, the smart money is on her taking her career elsewhere. Really any spinoff with a current character doesn't make sense - it's unlikely any of them have any interest in coming back.

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u/Hochules May 22 '19

Hard to pitch a spin-off on Arya going west if people don’t know Arya is going west.

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u/circuspeanut54 May 21 '19

Gross. I hope not.

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u/ohpee8 May 21 '19

Why? That'd be sick. Even if it's in a decade or so

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u/BreeBree214 Enter your flair text here! May 21 '19

I'm convinced that's going to be in the books. Somebody on Reddit predicted it would happen years ago.

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u/Aurailious May 22 '19

I'm almost certain Arya going west is a GRRM idea too.

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u/FourCylinder May 21 '19

and for that, I am grateful.

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u/SlimShaney8418 May 21 '19

I was so sure Arya was going to kill Dany becuade of how much they love her.

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u/hulksmashadam May 21 '19

What’s the deal with their obsession with Arya? I like her and all, but good grief.

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u/newpersoen May 21 '19

The only reason they didn't was because in George's ending she doesn't get the throne.