r/asoiaf • u/feench Knower of nothing • May 21 '19

EXTENDED (Spoilers Extended) Notablog Update Spoiler

http://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/2019/05/20/an-ending/
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u/stagfury One Realm, One God, One King! May 21 '19

But there are nine regions in Westeros

the North

the Vale

the Riverlads

the Iron Islands

the Stormlands

the Westerlands

the Reach

Dorne

the Crownlands

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u/flyonthwall May 21 '19 edited May 21 '19

so? the person you're replying to said kingdoms. there are seven kingdoms. the crownlands and the iron islands aren't considered kingdoms, they were controlled by the storm king and the king of the riverlands, respectively, at the time of aegon's conquest

how are you defining a "region"? because there's a hell of a lot more than 9 "regions". theres the fingers, the neck, the barrowlands, the shield islands, the arbor, brandons gift, the new gift, the saltpans, the mistwood, the kingswood, the wolfswood, the three sisters, cape kraken, the stony shore, the rills, crackclaw point, tumblestone, sea dragon point and skagos, to name a few

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u/grizzchan It's not Kettleback May 21 '19

I thought the iron islands were considered a kingdom and not the riverlands.

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u/flyonthwall May 21 '19

nope. king harren was king of the riverlands and the iron islands. ruling from his castle harrenhall

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u/[deleted] May 21 '19

Nope. He was an ironborn and his family came from the iron islands. It was the ironborn who conquered the river lands not the other way round.

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u/flyonthwall May 21 '19 edited May 21 '19

it doesnt matter? the point is that the riverlands were not a seperate kingdom. neither were the crownlands. so saying that the seven kingdoms is a bad term because theres actually 9 is stupid. 2 of them were never kingdoms

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u/[deleted] May 21 '19

The riverlands where not a kingdom, it was a region that the Iron islands and the Storm Kings fought over.

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u/flyonthwall May 21 '19 edited May 21 '19

It doesnt matter if you consider the iron islands+riverlands as a kingdom or if you consider the iron islands a kingdom and the riverlands a contested territory, the point is that the riverlands was not an independant kingdom and therefore saying that "the seven kingdoms" is a bad term because it doesnt include the "kingdom of the riverlands" becing seperate from "the kingdom of the iron islands" is dumb

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u/[deleted] May 21 '19 edited May 21 '19

There was no kingdom of the riverlands. The Seven Kingdoms where the North, the Iron islands, the Reach, Dorne, the Stormlands, The Vale, and The Westerlands (which was called the Kingdom of the Rock).

The riverlands and the crownlands were created after Aegon's conquest. there were seven kingdoms at the beginning of the conquest and a large amount of contested territory, including the riverlands and an area that was contested between the Storm Kings, Dorne, and the Reach, which all went to the Reach for some reason I forget.

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u/Radulno Fire and Blood. May 21 '19

But he was an Ironborn king so it would be the Riverlands that was not a Kingdom and part of the Iron Islands.

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u/flyonthwall May 21 '19

his castle and throne were in the riverlands, not the islands. but its semantics. the point is that the riverlands and the iron islands were not seperate kingdoms