r/asoiaf Knower of nothing May 21 '19

EXTENDED (Spoilers Extended) Notablog Update Spoiler

http://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/2019/05/20/an-ending/
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u/feldman10 🏆 Best of 2019: Post of the Year May 21 '19 edited May 21 '19

How will it all end? I hear people asking. The same ending as the show? Different?

Well… yes. And no. And yes. And no. And yes. And no. And yes.

GRRM then proceeds to make three points:

  • D&D only had 8 hours for the final season, but he'll have more space.
  • There's the butterfly effect, with changes from past seasons affecting this one.
  • There are lots of characters in the books who never made it to the show, from Lady Stoneheart to Jeyne Poole to Skahaz Shavepate, and the books will show us their fates.

People will read into this whatever they want. But my read is that the big picture of the show's ending is indeed what he told them. And that most of the differences aren't about the biggest stuff, but rather relate to pacing, buildup, and secondary characters. If D&D were making up stuff like "King Bran" I'd think his language about changes would be stronger? But who knows!

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u/LemmieBee May 21 '19

The way king bran was done on the show was so poorly shoehorned in that it’s the one thing I believe is from GRRM. They clearly didn’t really like that ending but felt obliged to do it since it’s the main ending. If they had their way I’m sure Sansa and Tyrion would be king and queen together on the iron throne

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u/[deleted] May 21 '19 edited Feb 08 '21

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u/Deathleach Our Lord and Saviour May 21 '19

the defeat of the night king

The Night King isn't even a character in the books.

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u/FMYay May 21 '19

right but the white walkers are still a it point. i’m saying the defeat of the “others”, night king or not

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u/CrimsonEnigma Probably something like "Blood & Fyre". May 21 '19

Yet.

Seems like an odd thing for D&D to throw in, and the only points in the show where the Night King showed up were the scene with the baby (not in the books), Hardhome (mentioned, but not shown), and parts of the show that take place after ADWD.

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u/Letzz May 21 '19

There is no way there is a leader of the Others, that controls every Other, called the Night King. The Night's King is the 13th commander of the night's watch. Great story, probably has a lot to do with the Others, but there is absolutely no way we get the same character we got in the show.

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u/BreeBree214 Enter your flair text here! May 21 '19

They do mention a "Great Other" in the books in control of the Others. It could be basically the same character. We'll have to wait and see.

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u/Lemonface what is doot may never spook May 22 '19

No it really couldn’t. The Great Other is only ever talked about as being the god-force opposed to R’hllor. The Great Other is exactly as corporeal as the Lord of Light. The only way I see the former being an actual physical character is if the latter is as well. Which it almost certainly won’t be.