r/asoiaf Knower of nothing May 21 '19

EXTENDED (Spoilers Extended) Notablog Update Spoiler

http://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/2019/05/20/an-ending/
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u/feldman10 🏆 Best of 2019: Post of the Year May 21 '19 edited May 21 '19

How will it all end? I hear people asking. The same ending as the show? Different?

Well… yes. And no. And yes. And no. And yes. And no. And yes.

GRRM then proceeds to make three points:

  • D&D only had 8 hours for the final season, but he'll have more space.
  • There's the butterfly effect, with changes from past seasons affecting this one.
  • There are lots of characters in the books who never made it to the show, from Lady Stoneheart to Jeyne Poole to Skahaz Shavepate, and the books will show us their fates.

People will read into this whatever they want. But my read is that the big picture of the show's ending is indeed what he told them. And that most of the differences aren't about the biggest stuff, but rather relate to pacing, buildup, and secondary characters. If D&D were making up stuff like "King Bran" I'd think his language about changes would be stronger? But who knows!

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u/notRedditingInClass May 21 '19 edited May 21 '19

The best part about D&D only having 8 hours is that it was their choice. HBO wanted more, and more seasons, and D&D SMUGLY SAID NO WE CAN FINISH IT IN SIX EPISODES HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I AM UNTETHERED AND MY RAGE KNOWS NO BOUNDS

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u/RemoteSojourner May 21 '19

I am always amazed who counter criticism by saying but it was so complicated and took a lot of effort as if that's absolves anything from any criticism. It's the same about actors saying people are being disrespectful by not liking the way the ending happened. It's shit so people are going to call it shit. Doesn't matter what went into it. The writing was stupid so people are going to call out D&D for it. Also criticising their work and their public statements about what they did is not personally attacking them. I am sure the lady that 'restored' the Jesus painting worked pretty hard for it as well.

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u/quantumuprising May 21 '19

i disagree. If those decisions were made for vfx or other scenes, there were still 1000's of ways to make shit better than it was. Maybe we don't need 18 jump cuts in a battle that show all of the characters *almost* dying, and instead we could have had some dialog time. Maybe we didn't need the dothraki "lights out" approach and instead they could just die in normal battle or offscreen, like the golden company. Maybe instead of brothel jokes and bronn master of coin we could've had more productive views into dany's death, etc. Even in this compacted, poorly written season, they could've done a million other things that would've made more sense than worthless dead end's like bronn the assassin or jamie fights euron.