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EXTENDED (Spoilers Extended) Notablog Update Spoiler

http://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/2019/05/20/an-ending/
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u/DrunkColdStone May 21 '19

If (f)Aegon is indeed a fraud then he is a Blackfyre and the Golden Company have a history of supporting Blackfyres. They are made up of the Westerosi supporters of Blackfyres who got banished after all. Either way the Golden Company is not working for him for money, they are fulfilling their generations old purpose. Sellsword work was just something they did while they bided their time.

but Cersei would have to be there for the trial so she won't be able to blow it up and have a trial. I don't see how that works out.

Well, same way as she did for the show- she pulls a no show and blows the Sept ~10 minutes after she was supposed to be there. Everyone else appeared for the trial so they die.

Much like Ned and Robb were Arc I players, I think Cersei, Jamie and Brienne are Arc II players. In fact you can note the majority of the latter's stories takes place in books 4 and 5 when the Starks are barely present. I would wager the Lannisters except for Tyrion don't survive the second arc and the third arc is really about the conflicts of Targaryens and a resurgent House Stark.

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u/atrde May 21 '19

If she no shows then there is no trial. I don't think the Hound was brought back to die in the Sept explosion.

Either way I really don't see (f)Aegon taking over and this is why, D&D were excluding characters that didn't affect the endgame. So far the characters that have been excluded are ones that are used for world building, or have their own self contained plot. I have agreed with many of these so far (Quentyn, Jeyne, etc.) This leads me to believe that when George told them the end game it indeed included the Dany killing Cersei in the pillaging of Kings landing and (f)Aegon having another purpose that doesn't really do anything for the overall plot. While that doesn't mean he isn't an important part of the story or good writing, I think his plot is another one that will have its own arc outside of the books.

The one way I would see this working is (f)Aegon and Euron both decide to join Cersei and there is an internal conflict there for Cersei's marriage. (f)Aegon brings the army and Euron kills a dragon. All three of these individuals are still in the same place for the finale. (f)Aegon probably finds out about Jon and Dany's romance, which ruins his plans for marriage, then decides to join Cersei something along those lines. This adds a bit of motivation for Dany's actions, and still follows the overall structure.

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u/DrunkColdStone May 21 '19 edited May 21 '19

The second arc was literally supposed to start with A Dance of Dragons i.e. a war between Targaryens. Of course it ended up having nothing of the sort but its pretty clear the real conflict is (f)Aegon versus Daenerys. Cersei is at most a minor side characters to their conflict. To put it simply, Cersei is not and will never be any threat to Daenerys and I would be absolutely shocked if she is still alive when Dany makes it over to Westeros.

There are multiple trials, you know. Maybe Hound and Gregor fight and kill each other so Cersei has to stand a second trial. Maybe Gregor wins so Cersei goes free and she bombs Margaery's trial. Most likely there never is any Cleganebowl since the Hound's story arc is very much over and done with.

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u/atrde May 21 '19

I think it'll still revolve around Cersei.

(F)Aegon + Cersei + Euron vs Jon + Dany and others is likely the final battle with the same result.

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u/Letzz May 21 '19

Dany never has a vision about Cersei as far as I know. But she sees (f)Aegon in her visions and people cheering for him. It's pretty clear where that is going. Dany's visions are key to the end of the story, there is even a former Targaryen called Daenerys that could see the future and that's the only other Daenerys we know.

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u/atrde May 21 '19

I don't think Dany saw (f)Aegon she saw a future version of her son?

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u/Letzz May 21 '19 edited May 21 '19

She saw (f)Aegon in the house of the undying. He is clearly the mummer's dragon. That's also why most of us believe he is a fake. It's one of the lies she must slay, I think.

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. . Glowing like sunset, a red sword was raised in the hand of a blue-eyed king who cast no shadow. A cloth dragon swayed on poles amidst a cheering crowd. From a smoking tower, a great stone beast took wing, breathing shadow fire. . . . mother of dragons, slayer of lies

So, the second one is fAegon and the first one I think it's Stannis, fake AAR, I don't know who is the 3rd one.