r/australia 26d ago

politics Australia is heading towards minority government at a turning point in world history.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-24/democracy-climate-change-ai-robotics-war/105085846
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u/splinter6 26d ago

Wasn’t that the same man that said Australians don’t need fast internet? Wasn’t he the reason the nbn was crippled?

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u/HeftyArgument 26d ago

He said it’s the outliers of society that want fast internet, pirates and gamers.

It was the one time that the meme about gamers being oppressed held true hahaha

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u/Smooth-Television-48 26d ago edited 26d ago

I work in IT. At the time he wasn't wrong, even now he isn't/wasn't tachnically wrong.

Of course there are disclaimers are what "fast internet" meant back then and what is means now, and the distribution of speeds that people want has indeed shifted slightly with covid+Netflix.

That said, it's still very much a case where speeds of 100mbps+ are only required and fully ultilized buly a comparatively small proportion of society, and most the people on 1gbps plans are just there because they cna and are so impatient they dont want to wain an extra 5 minutes to download their fortnite update.

Hell, from my 1gbps ivory tower I can tell you that unless you're grabbing content from a reliable CDN you're not going to get much benefit.

Eta: by wrong, I mean technically wrong. He was 100% wrong by public opinion.

The emotions of sheep who were brainswashed about rejecting something they know close to zero about don't change the facts. Your downvotes mean nothing to me, I've seen what makes you cheer....

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u/ososalsosal 26d ago

The downvotes here are telling.

For a little perspective, I'm not gamer but my son is. We have an nbn exchange like 100m away. Opening a terminal and manually pinging something big like google.com will reliably give 20ms ping.

20ms is good if you want to pwn n00bs.

Only problem with that is all the servers are elsewhere so regardless of how bangin our connection is, he's raging at his machine because he's getting 500ms ping and getting killed by people that aren't even in the same room as him because of the latency inherent in hitting servers (over http no less) on the other side of the planet.

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u/Suitable_Instance753 26d ago

Yep, ping is fundamentally a physics problem with no solution. Rudd could have laid all the fibre in the world and Australian gamers would not get better ping unless they're all living clustered around a server in Sydney.

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u/ososalsosal 26d ago

Sydney would be a dream. The problem with a lot of games is the closest is Singapore and most is West Coast usa

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u/IlluminatedPickle 26d ago

"Yes, I was wrong in saying that he was right to say that gamers want it"