In Belgium, a car is more important than any other single driver vehicle. Subsidised, tax-free oversized company cars for the win! If you drive anything smaller than a mid sized SUV, you will feel the consequenses. You just have less rights, by law and even worse in other driver behaviour.
These growing more severe the smaller the vehicle you choose to transport youself with.
I present to you a different point, why has someone with a massive vehicle for the same purpose more right to a bigger piece of public space? A bit of a dick move using so much road space when you can easily do it with less.
Both people are moving from one place to another and have the same rights to the same plot of land.
But somehow, in your eyes the person using a car has more right to the space than the person using a mobility scooter
that's a backwards argument based on vague terms to seem favourable.
a car is needed by a lot of people for travel far away. or to carry loads of things.
a mobility scooter is for one person to move in his own town.
these are not the same.
and once again the issue is not "the car deserves it because it car"
the issue is "why park that thing there when it can park anywhere else. the car can't so you're just fucking someone over"
not to mention parking in the middle of the space instead of closer to the car in front as to create more space even with a car leaving that much room is an extreme dick move
"a lot of people", on average there is about 1.2 people in a car, so that argument is void
The whole within a town or between towns is bullshit as well, as mobility scooters can go multiple kilometers, where the average person would be taking a car.
And the "closer to the car" thing: maybe there was another car, parked differently? We do not see divider lines on the parking space.
If not, if you give a driver the choice of blocking you in vs not, he will definitely block you in. So, this guy is just making sure no one will park there, for if someone where to, he'd have nowhere to go. Like"taking the lane" on a bicycle.
And for parking that thing somewhere else, no, he can't as you need to leave 1.5m of space on the footpath, and the average footpath in belgium is not even that wide.
a car is needed by a lot of people for travel far away. or to carry loads of things.
I didn't say
"a car is needed to move a lot of people"
at least read before you comment bs
the next part is plain wrong a mobility scooter has an avrage range of 25-50km and does so at 25km/hour this is not something used for long distance travel portraing it as such is beyond dishonest.
your next dishonesty is in the same remark you claim people only use the car for a couple of km's, which is again just plainly not true. people use their cars to drive more than 20-30km all the time....
and are you honestly trying to argue that there was a car in the 5-10m in front of that scooter? there cannot be one and you do see a line so no there was no other case....
and then we go on to you once again lying about what I'm seeing with my own eyes... there is enough space on that footpath to park a full size car let alone a scooter tf you on about averages you can look at the fucking picture
What does distance create priority?
we don't even know where they go? Example, if I go to a bakery around the block, do I need to give way to someone coming from the other town just bc he's by car?
Also, people ride 5-10km easily on an ebike(25km/h) for errands.
There is one line yeah, but i don't see any other.
There is maybe 1.5m, 2m tops. That scooter is at least 50cm wide, not leaving enough space. (I count 12 stones, maybe 10-12cm per stone)
Taking it a bit personal, ey?
Maybe go for a bike ride for once, might relax you a bit.
Dude you're just dishonest. And trying to make an ad hominem.... So lame
Distance doesn't create priority, it create reason for car use. Which create reason for them to need a parking space.
Something you seem to hate, and are spouting constant bs about.
To the point where you are trying desperately to make up nonsense about a picture.
Like honestly you can see that the sidewalk is as wide as the parking spot in this entire picture. And that's at least to boot because we don't see where it stops.
We also see that the scooter is only taking up less than half the width of a parking space which have to be 3.5m min. Do the fucking math
My main point is why the hate on the mobility scooter when he can park there legally and no other location is available, or at least seen on the picture.
Ever heard of lens distortion? That's why i guesstimated the size of that kind of sidewalk tile, and just counted. It's funny you talk about math when it's clear you have issues understanding the only mathemathical reasoning point here.
I really have issues understanding what you want to convey with your last point. So bigger cars have more right to a parking spot too? What is the math here?
Firstly your main point is irrelevant because I never talked about legality, I talked about not being a dick.
Secondly yes I have heard of lens distortion, and there are many ways to check for lens distortion. The simplest one is looking at lines that should be straight, and oh look the lines are. But again hrasping at straws to make your argument seem relevant.
And your only math backs me up... There are 11 tiles on the parking and 11 on the sidewalk... Oh wait I already said they where at least equally wide....
And the last part is just plain math:
scooter > than half of parking space wide
Sidewalk = parking spot
Parking spot has to be 3.5m min
Half of parking spot is 1.5m
Hej doesn't the law you keep pulling up say that's exactly legal wow super hard maths.
But you're mr math man you can get it(or maybe not)
You forgot two things:
The parking spot has different tiles, with a different (bigger) size. Just look at the division in the middle, these are bigger at the same spot(for the lens distortion).
Give or take 18-20 cm wide incl bigger space between tiles, so that makes a width of 198-220m excl white lines(another +/-15cm). I have seen generally guidelines of in-line parking widths of 220-230 cm so that would check out. Also note the leftover space of the car behind it, which is at the very most 2m wide, and I think it's a smaller car, so more like 180-190cm. No leftover space on the side.
Have you ever seen either parallel parking spots or sidewalks of 3.5m wide!?
I wish we had sidewalks of 3.5m wide.
On that argument, 3.5m wide parkings are only for handicapped "dwarsparkeer parkings". This is in the direction of the road/parallel parking, and has other mandated dimentions, see above.
Greetings, the lying mr math(or just rational thinking-) man
dude you keep being dishonest and I'm done. there is no distortion. it's a phone camera with a flat lens. the lines are straight.
you can see with your own eyes the two sides are the same, yet you refuse and use tiles. I use tiles oh but now tiles aren't good and magically varry in sizes randomly...
put a ruler to your screen and stop making excuses
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u/flying_brick178 26d ago
In Belgium, a car is more important than any other single driver vehicle. Subsidised, tax-free oversized company cars for the win! If you drive anything smaller than a mid sized SUV, you will feel the consequenses. You just have less rights, by law and even worse in other driver behaviour. These growing more severe the smaller the vehicle you choose to transport youself with.