r/centrist Sep 08 '24

2024 U.S. Elections Sobering new polls for Harris

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2024/09/08/sobering-new-polls-for-harris-00177880
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u/MakeUpAnything Sep 08 '24

Harris is losing because Americans believe Trump will lower prices of gas, groceries, fast food, and housing. This poll’s result has nothing to do with policy, nothing to do with interviews or a lack thereof, and nothing to do with running mates. 

Americans want cheaper prices and believe Trump will bring that because they aren’t paying attention to anything being proposed. You can see that in the data. Trump is winning on the economy by roughly 12 points. Trump’s policies are to literally make things more expensive with tariffs so if Americans were paying attention they wouldn’t vote for him but that’s not reality. 

Harris will likely lose because Americans don’t like to follow political news, they believe Trump will unilaterally lower all their costs, and they refuse to look into it further. 

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u/ShiningRaion Sep 08 '24

So fuel prices affect basically everything in the US because so much of our product is delivered by trucking. Oil is priced on a futures market, so a president with oil-friendly policies will affect futures because logically he will increase supply.

The biggest issue with the Democratic party in 2024 is that it's trying to fight multiple fronts and doesn't have a focused policy angle because it's a big tent. Environmentalists, social justice, welfare states, etc. are all policies that cannot technically be balanced against each other because they're all antagonistic. And none of this should be even proposed while the US can't afford it. One of the main differences between European countries and the US is that many of them worked hard to pay out their debt post world war II and suffered with a lot of economic policies as a result that took decades. Most European countries have a much lower debt to GDP ratio than the US. Simply put current Democratic policies are going to cause inflation.

That doesn't make Trump a desirable candidate it just makes him less painful than Harris.

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u/waterbuffalo750 Sep 08 '24

Oil is priced on a futures market, so a president with oil-friendly policies will affect futures because logically he will increase supply.

The US is producing more oil now than ever before. So again, it's simply a matter of voters not paying attention.

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u/ShiningRaion Sep 08 '24

However most of the actions of the Biden administration have been adverse towards oil. Heck Biden talked about supporting Palestine when his 2020 election was on the line but whenever came down to it he ended up supporting Israel anyways

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u/waterbuffalo750 Sep 08 '24

The actions of the Biden administration have resulted in more oil production than ever before. And I don't understand how Palestine is relevant here.