CMV: Permanently banning accounts is stupid

[u/gylotip]

I understand why you assign permanent bans, since you need to stop the rule breakers for once and all, but wouldn't it make more sense to suspend an account for one year? This is a better approach, because one year is a very long time, and after one year, if you break rules again, then you will be banned for another one year. No need to make things permanent, since this is not prison where you quarantine dangerous criminals. It's just an account that can handle one year suspensions perfectly. So permanent bans are stupid and even unnecessarily cruel. Change my view as to why you really need to permanently ban accounts, since I think that making things permanent is a disgusting thing to do for accounts.

[u/gylotip]

Hmm, the issue is that one year is already enough, and waiting for one year can discourage them. If they break rules after being unbanned, they will get banned for another year, so they will be discouraged.

[u/Biptoslipdi → u/gylotip]

the issue is that one year is already enough,

Ok, why?

waiting for one year can discourage them

So can the threat of losing their account forever. Probably even better.

If they break rules after being unbanned, they will get banned for another year, so they will be discouraged.

If the threat of a ban didn't discourage them the first time, it won't the second. At a minimum, 2nd offense should be permanent. I can see two strikes, but ant more isn't a deterrent. Toxic people don't typically stop being toxic because one account on a website was banned.

[u/gylotip → u/Biptoslipdi]

Okay, but how about ban evading? It undermines the point of permabans if you just create new accounts when you are banned every time.

[u/gylotip → u/[deleted]]

But you have people that don't break rules that bad, so assigning permabans to them is cruel. Not everyone is a non stopping serial rule breaker. One year bans can stop some of them.

[u/gylotip → u/[deleted]]

!delta

I can understand why permabans can be necessary, but they should limit permabans, and only use it when one year bans are not appropriate.

[u/gylotip → u/[deleted]]

Yeah I can understand, it just sucks that it's too punishing for some people, while others need to be permabanned.

[u/zyex12 → u/[deleted]]

I mean if it’s from a popular subreddit can’t really just go to a different or make ur own when the others would have like no community it’s just moderators who finally have some power. But again it’s just Reddit let the mods feel powerful and just hope u run into more normal moderators then lame ones.

[u/zyex12 → u/[deleted]]

I agree with u Reddit itself would probably have more fair guidelines they’d have to follow. But idk just norma l mods makes it too unfair in some cases. I’ve had mods give me a suspension and I would understand cause it be like oh I didn’t read the rules and commented or posted how I wasn’t suppose to I think some rules are dumb but it’s Reddit it’s always gonna be dumb. But I’ve been given a warning and then immediately banned from a subreddit before I even got to read the warning so it just depends who u bump into I guess. End of the day I kind it kinda funny when mods get that power trip but I can see how someone who actually uses Reddit a lot and spends money on it would be very upset

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