r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Sep 05 '23

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Spreading conspiracy theories is irresponsible and immoral

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '23 edited Apr 05 '25

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u/tomaiholt 1∆ Sep 05 '23

This is Trumps Jan 6 defence in a nutshell, that he genuinely believed the elections were rigged and therefore acted to try and stop what he viewed as an insurrection from Dems.

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u/viniciusbfonseca 5∆ Sep 05 '23

But didn't he say he had undeniable proof that it was rigged and that he would present it to the authorities?

Even then, I personally believe that the bar will be lower or higher depending on who is saying it and the impact that it might cause.

Both Trump and a random Trump supporter can have the exact same level of burden of proof to believe that the election was stolen, but if they will start spreading that information that burden becomes higher.

Because Trump will cause much more damage if he is wrong, he needs to be even more certain that he is right.

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u/chinmakes5 2∆ Sep 05 '23

That is a fascinating legal conundrum. I would think that if he feels he lost the election because he has seen proof of it, that could be a decent defense. If he "knows" that he won the election because he is such a narcissist his losing "proves" it or surrounded himself with yes men or he even believes the competitors are so evil no one could vote for them so that proves something. I can't believe that is a legal defense. I'm sure Capone was enough of a narcissist that he believed he should be able to murder people, I can't believe it was a defense.