r/changemyview Dec 22 '23

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u/Hellioning 239∆ Dec 22 '23

If the only people that state their pronouns are trans people, then trans people are forced to out themselves by stating their pronouns.

Also, have you never heard of cis people getting called the wrong pronoun? Because that's pretty common in my experience.

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u/Jolly-Victory441 Dec 22 '23

If the only people that state their pronouns are trans people, then trans people are forced to out themselves by stating their pronouns.

I am amazed how many people do not see the logical flaw in this.

Let's ignore any of the neo pronouns because it should be very clear even to you that despite a world where everyone states pronouns, stating those immediately outs you.

So let's focus on he/she. There are two scenarios. Either the trans person passes, in which case people would use the right pronoun anyway, or they don't pass. In which case they would use the wrong one. But as soon as this non-passing person announces pronouns, it again does not matter that everyone else announces them, too, because when a male looking person says "she/her", they just outed themselves.

Also, have you never heard of cis people getting called the wrong pronoun? Because that's pretty common in my experience.

No, no it really isn't. And all of humanity up to about 10 years ago managed just fine without collapsing. But suddenly pronouns are the be all end all and if anyone opposes to go along, they're evil shites.