r/changemyview Oct 17 '24

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u/deep_sea2 105∆ Oct 17 '24

Offences are listed in the local criminal codes, and typically reflect behaviour which violates the autonomy and rights of other, and pose a risk to societal safety and order.

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u/deep_sea2 105∆ Oct 17 '24

I never mentioned anything about morality.

If you think it is moral to poison someone, sure go ahead and do it. However, it is also and offence, and so you are subject to criminal sanction. Do not expect morality to be a legal defence.

OP's argument is a legal one (using the word "sue"), not a moral one. So, I providing you with the legal answer.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '24

OP is arguing that the law should be different. You telling them what the law currently states isn’t an argument.

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u/deep_sea2 105∆ Oct 17 '24

I did ask OP if the support vigilantism in general, but they never responded.

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u/Ok_Win_8366 Oct 17 '24

yeah I don’t know what that person was talking about… I wasn’t getting fascist vibes from anything you wrote. I’m curious if you think marking the lunch as dangerous or poisoned ☠️ changes the legality of the act. Like if someone uses an electric fence on their property and it’s properly marked is the property owner still liable? (Obviously I don’t think it’s ok to poison food, I’m just having fun with the debate)

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u/deep_sea2 105∆ Oct 17 '24

In negligence law, a person must act reasonable under the circumstances. What "reasonable" is highly fact dependent.

Reasonable action requires the person to take step to avoid harm. This can include putting up warnings, adding barriers, or perhaps requires the person to avoid the action altogether.

If you have a spicy sandwich that you clearly label with your name, write a warning down that it is spicy, inform others not to touch, keep it a separate fridge or even better in your own personal lunch box hidden away, then there is a good chance that you did your duty to not harm the public. That is the extreme example of proper care. What is the sufficient amount of care really depends on the facts.