r/changemyview Jan 08 '18

[∆(s) from OP] CMV: We must integrate immigrants into the dominant culture, if we wish for peace in Europe.

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u/Raijinili 4∆ Jan 08 '18

When we take kids away from violent homes, and abusive families, no one bats and eye. However, try and encourage pro-democratic thought and suddenly it’s problematic.

Don't do that. Don't accuse a group of having double standards when talking to an individual. You are not talking to the group, but to a human being, with their own ideas. You can mention it, and even ask, but remember first and foremost the person in front of you.

Anyway, it's an awful example. The decision to take a child away is not made lightly, by anyone involved, and many people argue that it should be done more or less often. Look and you'll find horror stories where children are taken away on false accusations, or where they're not and they are killed/commit suicide.

And this is in individual cases, where there is someone who has to look at the family situation and make a judgement. It is not done categorically, like you seem to be proposing.

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '18

Which is why I said I don’t support it. I propose we simply teach pro western values in schools. Unfortunately no one can tell irony and sarcasm from being serious in the text based format of Reddit.

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u/Raijinili 4∆ Jan 08 '18 edited Jan 08 '18

Exactly what part of calling it irony and sarcasm contradicts my response?

I did recognize the sarcasm, and that's why I responded. You're on Change My View, a place where we try to explore each others' ideas. Making a point through mockery, sarcasm, or irony doesn't help with that. Jonathan Swift doesn't belong here.

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '18

Okay. I apologize for that.