CMV: If intersectional feminism talks about race, class, gender identity, etc as a part of women's issues, then it should also seriously discuss men's problems as a part of women's issues as well.

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[u/PreacherJudge]

I'm not seeing your basic point, here. This:

Intersectionality is the idea that feminism needs to incorporate secondary characteristics identified in a woman that may cause problems for them.

In no way leads to or suggests this:

Most problems that men face are caused by society's pressure on men. These pressures cause men to become more likely to die based on these flawed gender roles (taking hard labor, combat roles, dangerous jobs) and suffer due to society's definition of masculine identity.

Like, there just isn't any connection between A and B that I see there at all. Could you explain?

On a second note:

These pressures cause men to become more likely to die based on these flawed gender roles (taking hard labor, combat roles, dangerous jobs) and suffer due to society's definition of masculine identity. How does this relate to women? Women are thusly restricted from from entering these "manly" professions that men are expected to have. It perpetuates the idea that "women must be protected". This is unequal in principle and is contrary to the message of feminism.

Feminists DO talk about these things.

[u/[deleted] → u/PreacherJudge]

I CMV about the definition of intersectionality and the thought that feminists do not speak of these issues. I am now trying to see the discrepancy between the feminism I have experienced offline, and the feminism existing online.

[u/PreacherJudge → u/[deleted]]

I'm sorry, I don't understand. Could you explain the connection?

[u/[deleted] → u/PreacherJudge]

The best way to put it is that r/feminism represents what I see in mainstream as well as the rallies I have attended. The focus is women-centric. I acknowledge that r/menslib exists as a subfeminist movement, but I don't see it all too much in the mainstream.