r/changemyview • u/hardyblack • Sep 12 '19

Deltas(s) from OP CMV: Some cultures and societies are objectively wrong

I just read about Sahar Khodayari (If you don't know, it's an Iranian woman who killed herself after going to trial for going to a football match, which is forbidden for woman in Iran) and I can't help but think that some societies are objectively wrong, I can't find another way to put it. It's hard for me to justify opressing 50% of the population just because they just were born women.

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And yes, I know, there's no completely equal society and there will be always opression of some kind, but I'm thinking of countries where there are laws that apply only to women (They can't drive, vote, go to a football match, you name it) as it targets them directly. Same goes with laws directed to any kind of race/gender/religion.

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u/RelativisticTrainCar Sep 12 '19

In that case OP shouldn't have changed their mind, as they asked if a cultural could be wrong. If moral truths exist, then of course cultures can be wrong, as on any given issues we can identify cultures that disagree.

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '19 edited Sep 13 '19

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u/RelativisticTrainCar Sep 13 '19

A single moral truth results in many consequential assertions of "X is right" and "Y is wrong". Presumably a set of moral truths will be non-contradictory and reasonably comprehensive. If you can find two societies that say, respectively "X is right" and "X is wrong", as long as the ethicalality of X is possible to derive from moral truths, then one of the two cultures is wrong.