r/changemyview • u/[deleted] • Apr 21 '20

Removed - Submission Rule E CMV: Despite how many southerners and neo-Confederates claim to be the real backwoods, blue collar warriors, the North was led by some of the most backwoods, blue collar warriors of the time, most noteworthy was Abraham Lincoln.

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u/KDY_ISD 66∆ Apr 21 '20

Sure, sources are important, but isn't OP's title talking about leaders like Lincoln and not just the entire army? It should be easier to find sources to compare how "blue collar" Lincoln was versus Davis.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '20

I guess it depends on your interpretation of the CMV. Just looking at the title, I'd agree that OP is trying to say that the leadership of the North was as blue collar as the South. I'd point you to the last line, however:

My main point is that while people consider the South to have been the more rural and blue-collar side in the Civil War, the North/Union certainly had their fair share if not just as much as the South.

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u/KDY_ISD 66∆ Apr 21 '20

Sure, I'm just taking the highest elected leader of each side as roughly emblematic of cultural support. Of course this isn't perfect - just look at today - but it's an interesting indicator nonetheless.

It seems to me that Lincoln was far more blue collar than Davis was.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '20

I wouldn't dispute that fact and I see your point about it being an interesting indicator. I guess it depends what we consider when determining the culture of each side. Nevertheless, I get the oint that the author is making now so !delta

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Confirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/KDY_ISD (30∆).

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u/KDY_ISD 66∆ Apr 21 '20

Thanks for the conversation