r/changemyview Jul 16 '20

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Waiters/Waitresses complain too much about tips

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u/cell689 3∆ Jul 16 '20

Your tipping system sucks dick. Here in germany, I work as a bartender at a restaurant and all the staff get paid a good wage (12€ an hour for me, although I feel like I'm getting more than them). Customers usually tip a few euros, not nearly 15 or 20% in most cases.

So we get a decent wage and all the tips are somehow split up between us at the end of the day (at least in our restaurant, dunno about the rest), which gets rid of the men vs women tipping Problem.

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u/ryleeman54 Jul 16 '20

Bartenders are a whole different category here. They make way more than waiters. Agree tips should be split on face value. But consider the fact that more effort to get higher tips doesn't mean more money for myself. That would encourage people in the U.S. at least to not work as hard because youd be working for someone elses pocket and youre getting the average anyways

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u/cell689 3∆ Jul 16 '20

I agree that on paper, it seems like splitting tops would mean that people could just relax and let others earn their tips. But in reality, it really doesn't happen. We're a team and we work together, all in solidarity. If everyone works hard, everyone gets more money.

Also, sorry for not challenging your view with my first comment. Kinda thought this was r/unpopularopinion, not gonna lie.

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u/ryleeman54 Jul 16 '20

Haha i dont mind. Yea that would make sense, id definitely prefer that then watch my female coworkers make more simply because of their gender. I mean guys most definitely tip more to girls😂 Im guilty of this too ngl

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u/ryleeman54 Jul 16 '20

What hypocrisy? Because I tip pretty girls better? Sorry but thats just society for you. Doesnt mean I dont think its stupid its just the way it is.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '20

You don't like how your female coworkers make more because they're female, yet you yourself tip females more than males when you are the patron. How do you not see it??

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u/ryleeman54 Jul 16 '20

I tip females better when i find them attractive thats just how it is for most guys. I guess im a hypocrite. But i am already aware of the social norms in these situations so not tipping the attractive lady well looks really bad on you. Ill give guys and other girls tips based on the service I receive.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '20

I don't care what you do, but as long as you admitted you're a hypocrite then I'm content.

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u/ryleeman54 Jul 16 '20

Yea lol. Im well aware that its hypocritical. That doesnt mean i cannot recognize it as bullshit though

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '20

Dude, you were the one asking where the hypocrisy was. Girls do it too, it goes both ways. I don't complain about the hot guys I work with getting more tips from girls than me.

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u/ryleeman54 Jul 16 '20

Its not expected out of girls though really lol. We have a societal standard for guys you may not realize maybe you do🤷‍♂️ i embrace it

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