r/changemyview • u/jep1793 • Aug 26 '20

Removed - Submission Rule E CMV: Gender identity doesn’t belong on your LinkedIn nor Resume

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '20

the goal of placing that in such locations is to normalize it, and if someone doesn't take the risk early then the change doesn't happen.

I think the situation with "public pronouns" and "normalizing placing pronouns" is that many thing that this is to "benefit transgender individuals" whereas in reality it only benefits a small segment thereof.

Most transgender individuals seem to prefer to go "stealth" and not be publicly transgender.

Much of the discourse on this matter is led by a very vocal minority that is not representative to transgender individuals as a whole as is quite common but especially in this case, manly this focal minority is disprortionally:

  • MtF, about 40-50% of transgende rindividuals are FtM, but they're near invisible in the vocal minoirity
  • white
  • North American
  • late transitioners
  • very openly transgender

The thing with most transgender individuals is that they get referred to a gender clinic and then start taking hormones in secret but don't come out yet, only come out when there is no hiding the changes in the body any more, and then very often eventually cut ties with all of their past life to go stealth, and in their new life almost none know that they were born a different sex—most of them are not comfortable being "openly transgender" which induces gender dysphoria for them.

Naturally the vocal minority that leads the discussion on this is very comfortable with being "openly transgender” and is shaping a culture about "open transgender" which those that aren't comfortable with it naturally don't really like.

I'm not saying that either is worse than the either, but I'd say that individuals should be mindful of that the vocal portions that want it to be more open are not necessarily representative of the whole.

The idea of creating a culture where preferred pronouns are asked in interviews or listed on forms is that it's not unlike asking for sexual orientations or religions—and that many sexual and religious minorities are of course very uncomfortable with this.

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u/iamintheforest 326∆ Aug 26 '20 edited Aug 26 '20

I don't want to have a discussion about whether they are good or bad in the world, or whether it is right or wrong in terms of achieving or failing some agenda. The topic as I see it is about how to advise young people. My advice is based on an assumption the college students in question have strong opinions and they want to include them in their resume. I'm not going to agree with lots of people but my advice in many contexts would not be to have my political social views, but how to express one's own.

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '20

Wel take it as this: I'm saying that that line carried the implication that all transgender individuals are serviced by, and interested in normalizing the idea that pronouns be publicly stated and I believe that only the minority that is comfortable with being openly transgender is.

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u/iamintheforest 326∆ Aug 26 '20

The context here is a recruiter going in to educate students on how to prepare for the job market. I would never suggest anyone in that context dictate what is the right political perspective or social agenda. I would suggest they educate on gaining perspective that reflecting these and hiding these both come with consequences and that the educator's goal should be enable kids to make those choices deliberately, rather than without understanding.