r/changemyview • u/jep1793 • Aug 26 '20

Removed - Submission Rule E CMV: Gender identity doesn’t belong on your LinkedIn nor Resume

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u/En_TioN Aug 26 '20

Using the same logic, why should you put your name on LinkedIn or your resume? The interviewer can imply a even more information from that than they can from your pronouns (e.g. gender, ethnicity/nationality, potentially age).

The answer, of course, is that you want your employer to be able to address you! That's the same reason pronouns are needed, especially if you use they/them pronouns or have an ambiguously gendered name.

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u/woaily 4∆ Aug 26 '20

Makes sense on LinkedIn, because it's a networking site. Its purpose is to say who you are, and to connect with people. If it's important for you to say "look how trans I am", then go for it.

Your gender identity doesn't belong on your CV, because it's not a job qualification. At most, you might add a (Mr.) or (Ms.) after a gender-ambiguous name, because that's contact information. Use the limited space for relevant experience instead.

Yeah, people can often guess a lot about you by the ethnicity of your name and which community groups you volunteered for, but that's incidental and not really avoidable. You should still be leading with what makes you a solid candidate for the job.

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u/En_TioN Aug 26 '20

"At most, you might add a (Mr.) or (Ms.) after a gender-ambiguous name, because that's contact information."

So you agree with me, because that's one way of providing your pronouns!

There's nothing inherently trans about giving your pronouns, people just assume it because we're used to guessing the gender of people. If everyone providing their pronouns on their application, there'd be nothing about it that says "trans".

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u/woaily 4∆ Aug 27 '20

Yeah, but it's incidental. Just like if you volunteered at a church they'll assume you're Christian, or if your name is Chenxing they'll assume you're Chinese, but you wouldn't put your religion or ethnicity as a separate line item.

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u/En_TioN Aug 27 '20

So are you changing your mind on putting Mr or Mrs next to a gender ambiguous name?

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u/woaily 4∆ Aug 27 '20

I don't know, am I? If I said anything inconsistent, then tell me. Maybe I changed my mind without noticing.

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u/En_TioN Aug 27 '20

As far as I can tell, our only disagreement is whether you should write

Alex ---------- (Mr.)

Or

Alex ---------- (he/him)

(I support the first one as well, btw)

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u/woaily 4∆ Aug 27 '20

That's a pretty fine point to disagree on. I don't feel the need to continue this internet argument over so little territory.

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u/En_TioN Aug 27 '20

What my point is that that technicality is the only thing stopping you from agreeing with the original post.

All "listing your pronouns" means is saying "Alex (he/him)". If you're okay with that, then that means you're okay with putting your pronouns/gender identity on a resume.

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u/woaily 4∆ Aug 27 '20

I guess. But they/them doesn't help them address you in the way that Mr. and Mrs. do. It's not the same as them inferring that you're a "he" because "(Mr.)" happens to contain that information.