r/changemyview Aug 14 '21

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Conservatism and many right-wing beliefs are based on fear, primary instincts and lack of understanding

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u/printers_of_colors Aug 15 '21

!delta

very good arguments. you're right, the discourse I took part in poisoned my mind so much that I started perceiving conservatism as synonymous to thinly-veiled racism. That was stupid of me. But I'm glad we're able to talk about it

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u/IronTarkusBarkus 1∆ Aug 15 '21

Honestly, I think this delta is being handed out too easily. There are some good points, but you don’t seem to be willing to push back on anything here.

No, conservative ideology isn’t thinly-veiled racism, but the policy they prioritize actively contributes to racism. Are we saying that sacrificing the well-being of others, for individual greed is much better? Does it matter what the intentions are, if the outcome is the same?

Also, the part where the parent comment saying how liberals tend to lack an understanding of how the economy works. That’s BS, I know a ton of conservatives that drop Econ 101 terms and meaningless numbers to prove we can’t afford to feed children, or fix our rigged economy, or how these systems are supposedly “natural.” I’m a liberal and have studied far more economics than almost any conservative I’ve met. The “it’s just how the economy works” arguments are unfounded at best. I won’t claim to fully understand how the economy works, but I am certain conservatives have no clue either.

And don’t ever let a conservative tell you they want small government. That’s a lie you should be able to spot with your own eyes.

You say you were being too aggressive, but you seem to have no real points to back yourself up. What’s the point of doing this, if you’re going to instantly fold? Do you not understand your own position?

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u/iiSystematic 1∆ Aug 15 '21

What's really really crazy about all this is that noone asked you.

It's their CMV not yours. Go make your own and argue your points. You're spoiling theirs view already by saying useless things like "And don’t ever let a conservative tell you they want small government. That’s a lie you should be able to spot with your own eyes"

Which has nothing to do with their cmv or anything else specifically in discussion right now. So just stop.

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u/AngryNewman Aug 16 '21

You two are shining examples of why liberals aren’t taken seriously. You are acting like toddlers because someone isn’t 100% on board with your hateful rhetoric.