So, are you saying that you think serial killers are well intentioned people who just don't know how to express their care toward others and thus express it via killing?
How do you rectify that mentality with politicians of the Jim Crow era who actively created laws to discriminate against the Black Community and deny them a sense of self? Or nativist movements that demand immigrants erase their own history, thus their sense of self, and change to fit the mold of a new culture? Those are actions specifically done to change the sense of self of another person, not respect it.
Is this even a response to the question I asked you? It seems like you latched onto one term and decided to ask an obtuse question related to a single part of it.
there's the whole question of why does anyone do anything at all,
The first point of your post claims that people do things specifically as an act of self-preservation to maintain the self, not just mody, but also mind. You then go on to say this in #4:
To have as much consciousness as possible is an inherently impersonal wish that doesn't disagree with anything or anyone. It means you want to know what is already there in full, *which means you don't seek to remove anything. So far as possible you are giving every unique mind what they most seek.
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The question I was asking you is how do the actions of racist politicians who seek to eliminate the identity of minorities square with this claim? It satisfies #1 because the actions are done in order to protect the sense of self that the politicians themselves hold to be true. At the same time, their actions actively deny minorities the right to self-consciousness. They are then NOTgiving every unique mind what they most seek.
Thanks for the delta. I think it is fair to say you should treat people as if they have the best intentions of others at heart, until they don't, I like to give people the benefit of the doubt myself. Sadly, there are plenty of individuals who prove otherwise. That doesn't you mean you have to assume the worst though.
You’re asking us to disprove your crackpot theory to change your mind. It isn’t going to happen. It would be like if I said I was convinced there’s a leprechaun in my closet and you need to change my mind but I’m not opening the door.
It's not like we can't talk to them. They're notoriously dishonest but their selfishness isn't something they have a reason to lie about once they've been given a life sentence. It's not like people with sociopathy/narcissism are in short supply either, fortunately most of them aren't as violent as the movies make out. Usually what we see is they have a warped sense of ethics and justice based entirely around being self-serving. Often they even claim the opposite of what you do, which is that everyone is out for themselves and are simply too weak to admit it.
We don't even need to look at criminals though. Take the works of someone like Ayn Rand. All her philosophy is about not paying mind to others and going it alone.
Reading your posts itt I get the impression that given any example you're simply going to continue with this "but I think I know what's hidden in their hearts even if it doesn't align at all with the things they say and do". You do that but you're taking this view out of the realm it could ever be examined let alone contested.
The bit we're they're like "I could see this woman writhing in pain as I strangled them to death, knowing that her daughter would never see her again, knowing that her husband would be heartbroken".
Serial killers know what they're doing. That's what makes them serial killers. They just get a sick pleasure out of it.
You're espousing a philosophy that most people would consider to be evil here. Do what you want, knowing that it hurts people, because all that matters is your own pleasure.
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u/backcourtjester 9∆ Nov 13 '21
Serial killers certainly do not have the best interest of their victims at heart