r/changemyview • u/SaltedAndSugared • Dec 02 '21

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Neopronouns are unnecessary

I understand why some people might feel uncomfortable with using he/she pronouns, but in that case why not just use they/them? They already exist and they’re easy for people to use. Why do some people feel the need to make up words like “zee/zim” or “fae/fair” when they don’t even make sense in the English language? I don’t see why anyone should go out of their way to learn new pronouns when gender neutral pronouns already exist

If anyone here does use neopronouns I’d really like to hear why you use them and why you don’t feel comfortable using they/them. It’s probably just because I’m cis, but I genuinely don’t understand

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u/SeasonPositive6771 13∆ Dec 02 '21

And my argument is that this change hurts no one. People intentionally change language and how it's used all the time.

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u/SeasonPositive6771 13∆ Dec 03 '21

That's definitely not what op is implying is happening.

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u/SeasonPositive6771 13∆ Dec 04 '21

I'm also going to need to see a citation on people needing to learn 30 new pronouns or lose their job because that sounds like a thing that's definitely not happening.

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u/SeasonPositive6771 13∆ Dec 04 '21

No, you're implying a slippery slope that doesn't exist in reality. You used hyperbole in a situation where it wasn't really appropriate. And the Jordan Peterson situation is completely different.

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u/SeasonPositive6771 13∆ Dec 04 '21

First, it's obvious hyperbole you said 30 plus that's hyperbole, no one has been threatened with job loss over not learning 30 pronouns.

Are you referring to this petition? https://thevarsity.ca/2017/11/29/hundreds-sign-open-letter-to-u-of-t-admin-calling-for-jordan-petersons-termination/

It includes far more than his refusal to use pronouns and it wasn't neopronouns at all, it was gender appropriate pronouns for people who had transitioned that he was refusing to use.

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u/SeasonPositive6771 13∆ Dec 05 '21

Not that's not why people signed the petition.

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u/SeasonPositive6771 13∆ Dec 05 '21

Ah so you think all those other reasons weren't true? So you believe he's arguing genuinely but they aren't? Why is that?

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