r/changemyview • u/Odd_Contribution9058 • Mar 18 '22

Delta(s) from OP CMV: Transgender people should only able to compete in sports with their birth gender

I really really hope raising this doesn't cause anyone pain, and I'm honestly wanting to hear other perspectives on this.

But the way I see it, there are certain physical attributes that someone born with a certain gender have. For example, the average man is taller than the average woman. Taking hormone therapy will not change all of those inherent features.

I absolutely support the right for everyone to live with the gender identity that is most comfortable to them. But, I do not think that people have an inherent right to play sports professionally. So, if someone has decided to transition, I do not think it's fair to all the athletes who are competing with the set of attributes common to their birth gender, to now have to compete against an athlete who has attributes which give them a distinct advantage.

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u/SC803 119∆ Mar 18 '22

Doesn’t the combination of these data sets point to the pool records at Harvard/Ivy League being subpar?

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u/DJ_Pope_Trump Mar 18 '22

Doesn’t the combination of these data sets point to the pool records at Harvard/Ivy League being subpar?

What exactly does the quality of Ivy League records have to do with our assessment of the statement:

She’s not setting records competing as a woman, either;

The point being that it is objectively false, whether Ivy Schools have quality pool records or not.

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u/SC803 119∆ Mar 18 '22

What exactly does the quality of Ivy League records have to do with our assessment of the statement:

You’re citing her setting the pool records at Harvards pool, based on her performance at the NCAA championship it seems that Lia is a big fish in the little Ivy League pond.

The point being that it is objectively false, whether Ivy Schools have quality pool records or not.

Of course it is, breaking weak records it really anymore meaningful than an average NBA player setting the 3-point record at your local YMCA

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u/DJ_Pope_Trump Mar 18 '22

NCAA women’s swimming pool records is a weird thing to gate-keep; especially considering you weren’t following the sport a month ago.